Bad Parents - not all, just bad ones.

[Righty The Wonder Ghoul]

I have always hated bad parents. they are the reason so many dumb things happen in this country. I am not joking in any way shape or form. i have a good example right here: video games. I will say right now that playing Doom, Quake, GTA3/vice city, Unreal Tournament, Counter Strike, take your choice, will not make your child violent. at least it won't if you are a good parent and you raised your child well. "My child can't distinguish between video games and reality." That is utter BS. there are only two reasons your child couldn't distinguish between the two. Either A; They are young in which case they shouldnt play the game, or B; they are stupid and you never explained the difference between the two. So why do we get all these bans on video games and such? not because they are rotting our youth, because americans are stupid and refuse to accept responsibility for their mistakes. You screwed up, your child shot someone, he was psycho, accept it. life sucks for all of us, not just you. what? your child played quake? that must be the problem, it must mean the 3 million other people in this world who played quake are gonna shoot up their school too!
I guess the main reason i am complaining is because parents dont know how to raise their children because they are incompetent. but they dont stop there, they have to go protest and get things banned because they are incapable of teaching their child right and wrong, so society and corporations have to do it for them.

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[Ming]

Justin, I can't agree with you more. The reason that there are so many problems with the youth of America today is that parents, on the whole, suck. Not to say that all parents do, but a great deal of them do. Look back 50 years ago...you have a fight with a kid at school. You go out back, throw a few punches, come back with a black eye, and the problem is over. Today however, you have a fight with a kid at school. You go out back, one pulls a gun and shoots the other. Why do kids do this? It's not because of video games, or TV, or music. I grew up playing a lot of video games. I've seen countless violent movies. I listen to pretty much every kind of rock music imaginable. But people who know me will tell you that I would never hurt a fly. Just because I am exposed to such things doesn't mean I'm going to be violent. The reason is because my parents brought me up properly. They weren't afraid to tell me 'no' because it would 'cause psychological damage'. They weren't afraid to yell because it was going to 'scar me'. And you know what...I learned my lessons. Today, parents let their kids get away with EVERYTHING. You can't yell at them because that's 'not nurturing'. You have to speak in a 'gentle tone' and give them a 'time out'. Bull s*it! You have to let your kid know who's boss. You have to command respect. Because if you don't, they'll walk ALL over you. Not to say that you should be a tyrant, but if you start teaching your kids respect early on in life, you will almost NEVER have to punish your kid/yell later on. Look back again 50 years ago. The children of that generation (my parents' generation) were exposed violence also, granted it wasn't as gratuitous as what we were exposed to. My dad tells me stories of watching cowboy movies, and horror movies. Have you ever watched some of those? They can get pretty violent, with people shooting others, and monsters ripping people to shreds. Ever watch an old James Bond movie? 007 kicks ass pretty bad then takes names. And yet how many problems came out of that generation?

The point is exactly what Justin said. If you properly teach your kid right and wrong, then we wouldn't have the problems what we do today.

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[Tobias]

i have to also agree.

Best example: The kid wont eat his dinner, so the stupid parent will try to soft talk the kid into eating (which never works), and the kid will refuse. Then, in order to shut the kid up, the parent will give him sweets, which he knows he loves. eventually, that kid will never listen to his parents, and only pesture them into doing what he/she wants.

Now the smart parent will first ask him to eat. He/she refuses. Parent says "fine, u dont eat" And takes away the food and soda. Now the kid gets upset. Now the parent says "no desert either" After that, the kid now is hungry and will have to nourish himself with teh food that he was originally given. Now, if he presists to not eat, the parent takes the food away, but doesnt throw it out, but rather saves it. Guess whats for breakfast the next day? u guessed it, dinner from last night. Now the kid is really hungry, and if he presists to not eat it, hes gonna end up eating his own foot from hunger. So the kid will most likely eat the food, and then learn his lesson, that he better eat his dinner, or else it will come back to haunt him.

Now, not that that is exactly the point of the topic, but it does relate to the fact, that the parent needs to be firm with the kid and not let the little bugger walk all over you. Instead, you show him who's boss, and he/she will learn that what you are teaching them must be good if you presist. And then kids admit that their parents emotionally scared them...i highly doubt this. They would be emotionally scared if they were beaten for not eating their food, but they will understand what you are trying to teach them by yelling at them every once in a while. And the best part is, when they learn what is right and wrong at this early of a stage, you will probably not have to yell in the future, because the kid will know that what mom or dad says isnt to be argued with.

that is all

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[Sciler]

I agree 100%. Ive written many a rant about it, especially when i see some kinda of freaking news report talking bad about video games. I even got so worked up one time I wrote the news station educating htem about games, and told htem if they wanted a GOOD story, stop pointing fingers, and ASK the parents why they are buying thier 8 yr old Grand Theft Auto Vice City...etc. I doubt it did any good, if anyone even bothered to read it, but Ill do it everytime I see them about to point fingers. They are complaining about the wrong things, its definitely not the fault of game makers, movie producers, or the like.

[Righty The Wonder Ghoul]

Another thing about bad parents that pisses me off, the little timmies of the world (sorry if anyone here has the name tim) but you all know who im talking about. The little spoiled kid with ADHD whose parents buy him EVERYTHING just because he was born with a mental problem. Lord knows we should all bend over backwards to please some challenged kid. I mean, we are people, we all have problems. I dont go around demanding things because i get made fun of at school, or because im small, i deal with it. But these parents give timmies everything. they buy them every single thing the child could want for. They let them eat all the sugar lord knows they dont need. then when someone tries giving them an order, or tries giving them actual responsibility, they flip out and fail. Spoiling your child on a constant basis just makes things worse.

[Sperrit]

On the subject of bad parents: I agree that bad parents do account for a lot of terrible kids in the world. However, I can't tell you how many times I've seen parents with more than one kid, and one kid is absolutely terrible and the other is the best kid ever, and they treat them exactly the same! True, a bad parent can turn a kid sour, but there are just some kids out there that are born sour, and will be sour, no matter HOW great of a parent they have. Just as there are some kids who are great, even if they have terrible parents. Parents have a large effect on kids, that's for sure, but you always have to take the actual kid into account as well.

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[Sciler]

I agree to a point Sperrit. But what if they act differently, because the parents treat them differently...favors one over the other. They may not do it on purpose, but it does happen sometimes sadly, which can make the other kid(s) quite bitter.

but on agreeing with you, still doesnt allow people to point fingers and blame at entertainment companies.

im just tired of finger pointing

[Sperrit]

I agree with you Sciler. Parents certainly have a HUGE effect on kids. I'm not saying they don't. I'm just saying that sometimes its out of their hands. The kid is already what they are.
And yes, pointing fingers at the entertainment industry is EXTREMELY stupid and pointless.

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