Firearms

ScrumYummy · bunnyhunches of scrums Gender: Joined: 29 Jun 2005

I don't think that this will ever actually happen, but I think that we should abolish guns altogether. I think it's a bit rediculous that we have more deaths by guns than any other "first world"/modern nation. Not that getting rid of guns will completely abolish violence and shootings, but it would definitely put a curve on the problem.

Again, I don't think this will ever happen, due to "the right to bear arms." Which is an outdated law, I think (when it was written, a gun was almost a necessity to survive).

And I think everyone should watch Bowling for Columbine. Yes, some of it is very opinionated, but it brings up several good points.

Daijaga · Chosen of Luck Gender: Joined: 17 Dec 2003

Although I respect the sactity of life and I think refaining from killing is generally the best option, I see the wisdom behind the right to bear arms. It respects the individuality of the person, and our ability and responsibiliity as human beings to own a gun. And gun laws only keep guns out of hte hands of the lawful. Those who use typically find their illicit uses aquire them by other avenues anywya.

Faye · Luna Sierra Age: 42 Gender: Joined: 28 Apr 2004

ScrumYummy · bunnyhunches of scrums Gender: Joined: 29 Jun 2005

kei · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:18 am Post subject:

Nanda! Usou, watashi ni, starto sude wa epi ka? todashtei iichi bon commento?! Oo? "What the hell?! noway, I started this conversation? by 1 little comment?!" >>

Anyways if I did it brings up a very good point and if I didn't it brings up an even better point.

As Ultrawolf and many of you have stated so far the idea of having weapon permits/lisence eliminated will just cause more mayhem, but those collinbind (sp) kids weren't doing that for kicks I'm sure. something pushed them over their limits. Meaning someone or some people caused them hardship in their lives either at that age or ealier and they got freakin tired of it. But that still gives them no right to go killing inicent bystanders. (and yes my spelling sucks.) But as you guys stated having weapons in homes is also a bad idea as well, it does make them more accesible to kids, but you can't exactly be with out protection in the home, you've got to beable to protect and defend yourself in dangerious situations.

I don't own guns, just swords, and I started taking martail arts when I was in juniour high, I don't just do these things, because I like doing them as a hobby, but because it makes me feel impowered and safe.
That way I know if a situation aprouches me with means of harm I can defend myself.

that's my input.
-Kei

Blackmage · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:

You can try and control guns all you want and all your gunna do is waste time and money, look at drugs for axample or hell underage drinking!

And if you got rid of guns there would just be a lot more stabbing. Imagine gangs running around with swords instead of guns.

I personally think that letting everyone have the right ot have concealed weapons is a good and bad idea, bad becuase of the wrong people having it, but good becuase they might just be smart enough to realize that maybe everyone else around them might be packin some heat. Imagine some guy walking up to mug and old lady and pow he has a 9 shoved in his face I think he'd wish he didnt try that.

but back to the topic of school shootings, thats all just bad parenting. nothing more nothing less.

Excel Zero · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:13 am Post subject:

I think it's more about training....like mandatory training...Guns are great IMO...I can take out frustration or protect my family. The problem I find is when I see people weilding any weapon as a hobby/toy or just somehting to make them look cool. I say crack down and make a mandatory training, onger wait period, or maybe even a fee to own one period. Do I think what I mentioned will help stop violence? Not in the least...but what will??

Either way I like the guns I have...or will have again once I am not broke!

One quick question for Kei...

You say you feel empowered and safe with swords and that if a situation approaches you, you'll be apt to defend yourself? You talking swords here? Cuz if you are, how do you carry em around without getting in trouble...seriously this is sarcasm I am just trying to clarify...then again all of what I feel goes back to learn to use your hands...or better yet...your brain and mouth to fix a situation...I'd rather be yelled at than shot

End of line

Excel

Faye · Luna Sierra Age: 42 Gender: Joined: 28 Apr 2004

Now thats something I can get onboard with Excel. I wish they did require training for handguns at least. Any schmuck without a record can own a hand gun. You have to go through a course to get a concealed handgun liscense but my mother and I have both been through it and it really wasnt anything special.

Blackmage has another excellent point. If criminals really gotta think twice about doing shit now days, you never know who's packin a concealed weapon. To be perfectly honest, if the need ever arose, I'd hate to be caught without mine.

Scrummy, no offence but lets try to avoid quoting comedians on topics like this. I am sure we all love Eddie Izzard, but it is hardly worthwhile to quote something he talked about for 30 seconds in one of his bits. Contrary to popular belief its not always as simple as point and shoot.

You are right though I did mix up my shootings. The Columbine kids actually got a fellow stundent to buy their firearms for them, 3 days prior to the shooting. I dont think they figured out where they got the Tec-DC9 from though.

On the topic of hunting, I actually bow hunt as well. Taking a deer with a bow is a lot more satisfying, I will admit. However I dont consider it any less sportsman like that taking one with a gun. The only thing I dont like about most hunters is the fact that they are lazy about it. Sitting in a box or a tree for hours on end just waiting for a deer to show up. I prefer stalking. It makes the hunt so much more fun.

kei · Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:05 am Post subject:

Yeah, dicipline is the key here, and control of ones self is what I wager it being, parents not dicipliing their kids when they were younger could be a propable cause of this violence, but also if the teenager him or herself can't control their emotions or anger then that too can cause things to get out of hand.