This is why I don't like baseball

[kei]

Or more so why I don't like sports period.
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[Ming]

While that is a pretty sucky situation for the woman involved, I really don't see why it's any reason to dislike baseball. And it's really no reason to dislike any other sports, as this type of accident seems pretty exclusive to baseball, and MAYBE hockey.

[RivaOni]

Yeah its just an unfortunate accident of bat/racket/stick based sports. A football (soccer) can do just as much damage if it hits one of the fans in the stadium just right, and hell, I've seen numerous vehicles clear the fences in motor-racing, imagine how much damage THAT would do if it hit you, you'd be lucky to walk away alive!

Its just one of those things when you go to a sporting event, you'd be stupid to go in there without any idea of risk of injury of any kind. Hell, big stadiums can cause crushes, just Google the Hillsbrough incident.

[kei]

But still the women has a point why continue to use the same crappy ass bats after two incidents have already been filed. Maple is not a strong wood it's probably the weakest there is. Oak would be better, but yet the leagues still continue to use the the crappy ones. Why? If they are doing it as a attraction of spectation then I'd say someones ass needs to be kicked. Cause that's just cruel to humanity and sick. Like the saying goes "It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye." But this women lost her jaw. And they will not even change their bats? Something is wrong here.

[Ming]

I can sort of understand where you're coming from, but I think you're overreacting to the situation. And while I'm not much of a sports fan anymore myself, I think it's unfair at this point in time to chastise the sport for this. It looks like there MAY be a problem with the particular type of wood used, but there have been ONLY two incidents, according to this article. Two incidents in, I would venture to guess, thousands of at-bats. That's still an extremely low percentage of something bad happening, and probably not something that is statistically worth looking into at this point. At this point it's pretty much still considered a freak accident.

I, personally, think the team and/or the MLB should be at least paying for the woman's hospital bills, but their legal fine print is their legal fine print and there's not much you can do about it. Does it suck? Pretty much. But at the same time, if you pay out for one person you have to pay out for everyone.

Also, I highly doubt that the MLB allows this type of bat as a means to boost spectatorship and ticket sales. I don't think people really care all that much about player's breaking bats, at least not enough to influence their decision to watch and/or attend a game.

[Shandriz]

I think Ming makes some very good points, and pretty much agree with what he has to say-- while it sucks that they won't at least have the decency to pay for her medical bills, they're not required to, and two incidents, neither of which led to death or anything close to it...*shrugs* I don't see why they should feel like they have to.

I mean, accidents happen. It sucks, but it's true.

[kei]

Over-reacting? lol k you go and see how you would feel if you were in her shoes. I don't think she would consider this over-reacting. The reason a change of bat would be called foris to prevent any more incidents like these from happening. Keeping them on the field would just be a hazard. Yes if you pay for one then yes you should pay for it, even if that means paying for those in the future, if it is your supplies that did the damage it's only natural to take responsibility and it's also,"right" ,common since, basic knowledge and so on.

If they don't use it as a attraction then what do they use it as, there has to be some reason why their still keeping it out on the field. Obviously someone had the nerve to say something after this happend. "Hey these bats break to easily people get hurt." what your just going to shrug it off and say "oh well shit happends" shrug it off like a minor matter that's like hearing someone say "my cousin died" other guy:"ah so what, shit happends what are are yah gonna do, shake it off kid you'll be alright."

Yeh I'm sure that lady was happy hearing "ah you got hit in the jaw with a bat? oh well" *click* And you see no reason for change?

Edit: Oh I almost forgot the matter of them probabaly saying something more along the lines of this: "we are sorry for what happend, however these bats are super cheap and save us money, who the hell cares if you get hit in the face." pretty sure in wasn't exactly in this context but i'm positive it delivered the same message.

[GAAZ]

I'm going to haveta think that Maple is the strongest soft wood out there.

If you throw a ball at 90 miles an hour at a piece of Oak there's a chance a player can seriously injure his hands since the bat has no give to decrease the force applied to it.

Think of grabbing a piece of iron and hitting a brick wall with it. It hurts.

Lemme borrow your bat thing though. You want the Maple bats removed because they are a danger when unexpected conditions are acted upon them.

How many cars a day hit a pothole, nail, some glass or even go over a railroad and a tire blows out causing the driver to lose control and hurt if not kill other people? Should all cars be taken off the road till we eliminate tires?

[kei]

Not what i'm saying, I'm saying that in this case it is only right to do something about it. And not just shrug it off, like it's nothing. It dosen't have to be the bat banning, just something to show that "hey we are truly sory for what happend and we will take some responsible action for it." not just "oh well tough shit" that's like finding blame on the victim. Bat banning or not there has to be some reconcile action for this. There has to be something done to make e-mince (sp) Even though it was an accident the way the league is treating this is totally uncaring and making it seem like there is fault to be blamed.



Switching bats wasn't my point, my point was that there was an accident involving a baseball bat and a women jaw, when she asked for assistance it was immediately denied in a totally unprofessional manner. "No we won't help you and further were not going to pay for any damage, we are not even going to apologize." all that can be said with the words " so what shit happends, it sux." which means that the world we are living in is turning to ruble because we are becoming to apathetic to care at all.

That is my point.


Edit: Oh almost forgot about the cars thing, banning them right now would not really be a bad idea, considering how gas prices are these days.

[RivaOni]

I'll take soccer as my example here. A couple of years ago Nike brought out a new boot, and alot of their sponsored players were using them. A suprising amount of players started getting Metatarsal injuries, including Wayne Rooney, this was shortly after David Beckham got his in an Adidas boot.

the boot companies looked at the method they were using to create the boots and discovered there wasn't enough support in particular areas on the sole of the boot which was aiding the increase in injuries of this type.

My point? Unless theres a large percentage of people (players, fans, people using the products) then it won't get changed because quite frankly, everything has a failure rate. Take a Formula 1 car for example, one tiny little thing can result in catastrophe, Ayrton's Senna's death in 1992 was the result of a problem with a bolt on the steering column, or something to that effect. So things are going to be changed unless theres a large number of people injured, when you're seeing a few bats break in every single match, they may begin reinforcing them with something.