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shadokastur
Patience to see and strength to do. That is all.
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Joined: 26 Jan 2003 |
 Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: |
| GAAZ wrote: | | shadokastur wrote: | | GAAZ wrote: | | shadokastur wrote: |
I'd love for you to look straight into the eyes of someone who's lost a child or any other loved one to drugs and tell them that. As a near drug-related fatality myself, I can't say more than 'I thought you were better than this.' |
I have a request for you since you wanted me to look someone in the eyes and tell them I didn't care about their child.
How bout you go to a child dying of cancer or maybe a child that's just terminal and tell them about your "Awesome friend" that got addicted to drugs and died...Gave up his/her life for one more hit. See if that child doesn't ask you why someone would give up their life when there are people like him/her dying from something they had no choice in. |
I can only assume you're using the fact that the child didn't have a choice in their fate as the reason for this. I get your logic but I don't believe the child would really understand any way.
As for your uncle, I'm sure it meant more to him then a "he got what he deserved." It wasn't your child. Ask him. I bet he holds no contempt for your cousin and even if he does it's only so he doesn't have to fully face his own loss. After anger and fear are long gone, love remains. Maybe you won't know exactly what I mean until you have children of your own, but I can tell you no matter what Andrew or Lilly do in their lives I will love them. I'm sure it will hurt when they no longer need me or they move out, and even if they choose the path we are discussing here that fact will never change. Cause and effect are reliable but they are just a program that life runs without emotion. I suppose I'm just on the opposite side of this than you and that's fine. The next time you're feeling lonely or unappreciated I hope you can understand that "You brought this on yourself. It's nobody's but your own fault." |
Sweet, you completely ignored the part about helping those that are willing to help themselves. Good job on that one. Prolly your emotions got in the way. |
I did no such thing. I read and acknowledged it but I suppose I should have made that point more clear in my post. You get a point by default.
I believe in my heart (my precious emotions) that no one is beyond help or consideration in life. The ideal that I am espousing (vocab point!) is that something can be done for even those that have given up. And just because they've given up on themselves doesn't mean they deserve an equal dose of it from someone who has no idea of how to relate to what that person is dealing with. (That would only support any suicidal feelings they have.) It brings to mind a line from 'The Christmas Carol' where the folks from a charity come to Scrooge for a donation for the homeless and he answers "Are there no prisons? No poor houses?" They respond by saying "Some of them would rather die than go there." To which Scrooge coldly answers "Then they had better get on with it and decrease the surplus population."
You're a smoker. You pretty much know the most likely outcome of that, right? One could actually say that with that knowledge and your persistance that you are choosing suicide as well. But, when and if you're diagnosed I would never be the one to say "Serves you right." and if you need me I'll be there to help you however I can and still be involved with my family.
I'm just asking, David, that you 'Do unto others what you would have them do unto you'.
Namaste,
REY |
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Shino
Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time
Age: 49
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Joined: 15 Sep 2002 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
| shadokastur wrote: | | You're a smoker. You pretty much know the most likely outcome of that, right? One could actually say that with that knowledge and your persistance that you are choosing suicide as well. But, when and if you're diagnosed I would never be the one to say "Serves you right." and if you need me I'll be there to help you however I can and still be involved with my family. |
Just to clear this up... Gaaz doesn't smoke. |
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shadokastur
Patience to see and strength to do. That is all.
Gender:
Joined: 26 Jan 2003 |
| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: |
Well there goes that point.
Thank you, Shino. I apologize thoroughly, David. I thought I recalled you smoking outside Doot's apartment. |
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After our battle, I will keep the ash to remember you by. ~Phayne~
It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built. ~Darth Traya~ |
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