Against Pot - What can it do...

[Reverend]

Jeez, like you couldn't have named it something else... :nonono:

Anyhoo, the only time I tried out canabis, I ended up getting violently ill, and proceeding to feel like every single cell in my body had become hyper sensitive.

Let this be a lesson, it's not worth it.

[Senkir]

i always think its wierd how Pot is considered bad, yet alcohol is acceptible.

Its just too ingrained into society, i guess.

and on another note,

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well, the one kid i cant stand more than anyone else in the world does pot. all he ever does is make fun of me and then go on and on about how he got high that weekend, or how hes gonna sell or buy pot tomorrow, and all that crap. its incredibly annoying. he one time said that my playing warcraft 3 was just like him smoking pot cus its addictive and it wastes my life. i told him at least it wouldnt kill me, and i can remember playing warcraft 3. his older brother was already expelled for selling pot in the bathroom several years ago. but then again, my high school has one of the highest pot use rates in the nation. frikken private school, rich parents hand their kids money, thats why. kids today need to learn to work, then maybe theyd understand why pot sucks, but probably not.

kids are also angry for some reason. >.>

[Aiman]

Well, About thew alcohol thing, probly cuz you wont get bad effects drinking low quantity of alcohol. If you drink too much then of course you get drunk and stupid and sick and all that crap. So maybe thats, in my opinion, why alcohol is accesible.

Now more personal experience...

This past week Ive been practicing with my band, (I play in a rock band, for those of you who didnt know), and well, we practice at this gazebo near a beach where I live. Since that place is very solitare everytime we go there, you can see groups of ppl, and Im saying like 5 or 6 different groups of 3 or more ppl smoking pot. In addition, thursday and friday, we were practicing and both days we saw this grl injecting heroin. We were shocked completly how a girl would do that in front of all this ppl. I guess in the point shes at, she doesnt care about anything anymore. She didnt looked ugly or anything, but her complexion was awful and made her look very very bad and ugly.

Add another reason why drugs are bad. Makes you look awful.

[shadokastur]

When I saw "pot" I really thought you meant Rev.
But after reading the replies I'm glad it's not bout him.

But seriously Pot may seem perfectly harmless but it can ruin your life. I started smoking pot and like a moron got into everything else. You name it: cocaine, XTC, Speed, animal tranquilizers, LSD, etc.. Sciler and I used to be REALLY close but then I got into drugs and we drifted apart. Well, more like I walked away from her. But, being the super cool person and unbelievable friend she is, she still talked to me even after I became a "complete @$$hole" as some of my old friends put it. I went from being kinda chubby at 205lbs to weighing a mere 168lbs. I was told that my skin had taken on a GREEN HUE and my eyes looked so sunken in that I could've been mistaken for a zombie. Now, granted, I don't remember much, if any, of this. I was too strung out to notice anything about anything at all. I used LSD HEAVILY and had 2, not one (b/c I wasn't smart enough to stop at one) but 2 nervous breakdowns!! I was fit for an asylum for about 8mos of my life which I don't remember. I remember hallucinating even after the drugs had worn off and feeling that God himself HATED me and told me to kill myself! I had a hand gun at that time and was almost ready to use it on me when something inside me snapped and all i could think about was my friends. They're the only reason I'm still alive today. So Aiman, and anyone else that knows someone on drugs, your friend(or whomever) NEEDS your support. They might not know it or not know how or even why they should ask for it but the truth is they need someone who's going to be there for them. Don't try to make them see the error of their ways they will only rebel against what they will percieve as someone trying to control them or telling them what to do. Just be compassionate if they come to you or keep up on them, maybe a call every now and again for a 'what's up?'.
People have to learn their own lessons and all you can really do is be understanding and willing to help. They're just trying to deal with this confusing thing we call life too and they think they've found an easy way to do it.


Shadokastur

[Sciler]

[D-Trix]

well, i hate (read: love) to be the dissenting voice here, but i don't think pot is quite as bad as it's being painted.

before i begin, i agree with almost everything that's been said:
pot can be a gateway drug.
pot is addictive (psychologically if not physiologically).
addiction can be dangerous to one's own health.
addiction can alienate friends and family.
treating addiction can be lengthy, expensive and difficult.
frequent pot use can make you dumb, lazy, and incoherent.
pot drains your money.
pot can make you ill, or paranoid, or give other allergic reactions.
pot can be laced with worse drugs.
pot can interact harmfully with other drugs.
pot can give you hangovers.

however, there's another side to things. as Woodsy pointed out, alcohol is perfectly acceptable in our culture but think of all the bad effects that can have:
alcohol is addictive (psychologically AND physiologically).
long-time use can give you cancer, liver poisoning, etc.
alcohol can drain your money.
alcohol can make you loud, obnoxious, and incoherent.
alcohol can interact harmfully with other drugs.
alcohol can give you hangovers.

or think about tobacco:
tobacco is addictive.
long-time use can give you cancer (lungs, mouth, throat, etc.)
tobacco can drain your money.
tobacco stains your clothes and teeth.
tobacco smells and tastes HIDEOUS.
worst of all, for all that trouble tobacco doesn't even get you high!

both of those have a lot in commonw ith pot, don't they? now, i have a modicum of experience with both pot and alcohol and my conclusion in both cases is similar: moderate, responsible use can be very enjoyable with a minimum of risk.

the use that most people here have reffered to seems to be frequent, excessive, and irresponsible - smoking every day, mixing drugs indiscriminately, using with children in the house (!!!). talk about screwed up! it's no surprise that people who use in this fashion end up screwing over their own lives and their friends and family.

but consider, on the other hand, someone like me. someone who uses both alcohol and pot on occassion, in moderate quantities, among friends in social situations. we're talking maybe once every couple of weeks with alcohol, once every few months with pot. and never to excess (i drank myself sick only twice early on before i learned my limits) - i'm always with friends and we use just enough to get a buzz and have a good time. furthermore, i have no desire whatsoever to try any other drug (one deterrent being that people sometimes die their first time taking acid or heroin - never heard of pot itself causing death). in my opinion, there is nothing wrong whatsoever with this behavior.

the problem with pot, as with any drug, is that some people choose to use it irresponsibly. but for those who follow the wisdom of ancient greece - 'Everything in moderation!' - pot can be a whole lot of fun. you just have to keep your limits so it doesn't dominate your mind or your life. certain people - addictive personalities, children, the developmentally challenged - can't excercise the necessary self-control and therefore should not be using drugs. but capable, responsible adults should be able to do as they please...and now i've turned a thoughtful piece on responsible drug use into an argument for legalization (FDA-regulated like alcohol and tobacco, of course).

oh well, i think i've made my point. everybody is right to condemn inappropriate use of all drugs, pot included, and i'll be happy to join that effort. i'm just saying, let's keep an open mind to those who choose to use responsibly. i've had some great times while stoned, and i turned out ok!

~Ted

[Tobias]

I have to say, ive never seen anyone do pot, or have ever been offered pot, but i have seen people with it. Its a pretty nasty looking thing, when this guy on the bus in MIDDLE SCHOOL pulls out a dime bag and starts waving it around like he is god.

Now the thing that ticks me off the most is how people think i am a pothead. Why is this, its because of my apperence. If you ever see a picture of me (and i hope i can get one up in teh future) my eyes are somewhat sunken back into my head much further than normal, my eyes have enormously large dark circles around them, and i always look like im on a high. The only thing is that im not.

Now that i think about it, i do know a good friend of mine who does do pot. He doesnt live very far from me, and doesnt really talk about it. Yet sometimes, when around other friends, he starts to brag about it. I have to say, with his current intellect, he is probably not going to have a great job in the future. To add to that, he used to be amazing at playing tennis, and basically gave it up, probably because he doesnt have the endurance anymore, which one can tell because he doesnt really do anything anymore after school accept drive around with friends.

So two possibilities in his future are probably destroyed. The reason i dont approach him to help solve his problem, maybe because i keep on telling myself that he wouldnt do something that stupid, but i dunno. Ive never had that problem with anyone.

[Righty The Wonder Ghoul]

Ted, i have only met you once, but i respect you from what little i do know of you. however i firmly believe that no good can come out of smoking pot. i have seen many of my cousins from my moms side of the family RUIN their lives because of drugs and tobacco. i personally feel, tobacco is a drug becuase it is addictive and can kill you. alcohol i have different views on, simply because the effects of it take a lot longer to experience. My uncle ruined his first marriage and lost his job, his house, his possesions, and almost all of his family because he got caught taking harder drugs which started off with simple pot. my one cousin has been in and out of rehab, and my other cousin is 24 and lives in a room at his parents home and has no job (he lost them all) so he just makes money selling pot and gets high every night. while what ted said about responsible use being acceptable just like with alcohol, i feel that most people who take pot aren't responsible enough to stick just to moderate use, and those who are would probably break down sooner or later. i look at the kids who take the train home from school, and a lot of them do drugs, it just seems like such a waste. some of them have already been arrested several times and they are only sophomores. thats not my idea of a good life.

[Reverend]

Was waiting for your voice to come into this one Ted, as I know your opinion is one of dissention on this matter. Now I have to say that my personal experience on this matter is limited, but I do know that for me, pot is bad, very bad.

Yes, we allow alcohol and tobacco. Yes, they are just as deadly. Yes, it is a gateway drug. However, I do agree in FDA regulation and legalization on the matter. Why? Because it becomes controlable. Suddenly you can monitor sales, tax the sucker through the roof, and make sure the stuffs only pure.

That being said, Ted I've known you stoned and have to say that you're just as fun when your clean, so why then add in an extra step when none of your good values diminish?

[Metal Man]

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree entirely about marijuana being harmless. If, as you say, it was harmless, and caused no damage whatsoever to you mentally or physically, it would not be illegal. You can complain about the government being stupid all you like, but I've seen so many people begin using drugs periodically, then degenerate into frequent abuse, and screw up their lives royally.

If you feel the need to use Marjuana, there is no-one who has the right to stop you. Well, except for the police, but that's beside the point... It may be your life, but what you do ALWAYS affects others. If you need to use drugs or alcohol to feel good, I suggest you reassess what you're doing with your life...

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