Against Pot - What can it do...

Night of the Clowns · Junior Otaku Joined: 21 Mar 2003

Pot is bad. A few of my close friends got Bootcamp because of it. And a bunch of my friends use it. And they are bad people.

Ming · DOOM! Gender: Joined: 13 Jan 2003

Sperrit · Chosen of Earth Gender: Joined: 16 Oct 2002

A very interesting responce, Ming, and not without merrit. I agree with you that drugs, in general, are bad and they mess up the people that use them, especially the kids. I agree that that you're right, that the cycle of rebellion will continue no matter what we do about DRUGS.
In responce to that I'd have to say that the one thing that will take care of both these problems is getting rid of the urge to rebel. The question is, of course, how do we do this? Well, first we have to establish what the kids (which will cross over to adult rebellion later) are rebelling against. I think that we can all agree that they're rebelling against authority. But what causes this? Again, we come back to an issue that'e been discussed MANY times on PO: Parenting.
CUE TEH GROANS!
I won't really get into it, but I think that if we had better parenting going on, rebellion wouldn't be as much of an issue.
But that's just one idea.

join the Fun Fox

Gekko · I lurk therefore, I am. Gender: Joined: 02 Apr 2003

OK, just read this entire thread and wanted to weigh in on it myself. Some of you know that I am pro-marijuana. I will agree with everything that everyone says about it being a "gateway drug" and that it affects you temporarily.

But I will disagree with a couple things.

Aiman, you said that pot is a tranquilizer, wrong. Pot is an upper, not a downer. ALCOHOL is a downer. Hard-core cocaine fiends will often snort a line, then drink a beer, then repeat. The reason? Coke gets you high (it's an upper), Beer levels the high off (it's a downer) but if you repeat the process, what you in fact do, is force yourself to get "higher" than you normally can. Because you "plateau" your high, then enhance it. Sort of like overclocking your PC (for all the techies here)

"Pot is a gateway drug" Again, I agree with this, but not in the same way as alot of ppl here. I believe it's a gateway drug because of it being Illegal. i.e. John smokes pot, likes it. Doesn't "abuse" it, just uses it. Gets busted. Still wants to have that "feeling" but now he's getting urine tested 2x a month. Well, that throws pot out the window, because it stays in your system for anywhere between 14-30 days; because THC is fat soluble, which means it stores itself in your fat cells. So John goes to coke, which is water soluble which means that it's out of your system in 2-3 days. Still a risk, but less of one.

Actually MORE of a risk, because coke can change your brain chemistry on a cellular level.

But, my position on pot, is that if it's your thing, then no one should be able to tell you what you can do with your body. I mean, thats what Roe vs. Wade was mostly about right? Except that in abortion, you ARE hurting somebody. But also, if it's NOT your thing, thats cool too. I personally haven't gotten smoked up in a long time November 29th of last year to be exact. It's something I enjoy, it's something I'm responsible with, and it's something that I acknowledge and accept the implications of using it are. I just think it should be a personal choice.

Ming · DOOM! Gender: Joined: 13 Jan 2003

I agree with you Spliff....its a personal choice. If you wanna go do it, then fine. I just don't want to see people close to me doing it, nor will I do it, because I don't have a "need" for it. To be "cool", "more social", "feel good" whatever anyone will argue is the use for it. Aside from a select group of people, I could give a s**t less what everyone else in the world does. What I really don't like is how it has sort of become a sort of subculture, as if its perfectly ok. Like selling posters and t-shirts advocating it. I feel the same way about alcohol. And again, I really don't appreciate the stereotyping. I'm 20 and in college, but it doesn't mean I go out and smoke up. I'm in college to learn, not get high/drunk.

And in response to what Sperrit said a while ago...

There probably is no way to get rid of rebellious behavior. Its probably because of parents, but its probably also society, showing that its good to rebel. Its turned the youth of America into miserable, selfish brats...

~Ming

kalika · Rookie Joined: 22 May 2003

i kinda have a "serves em right" mentality with drugs. i wouldn't mind much if they were legal. if you know they're bad and you do them anyway, then you probably deserve whats comin to you. i cant sympathize with people who smoke their problems away. i just feel bad for the people who care about them.