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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: oO .... Blind students required to pass ...Drivers ed?

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this is pointless .. i wanta kick the school systems alot sometimes

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject:

I agree with you - the problem is that the school systems fail to see between two possibilities:
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[*]Disabled students have to take all the same classes to keep the playing field level, or
[*]Disabled students are allowed to exempt certain classes and get an unfair advantage by being allowed to take extra AP/Honors classes their contemporaries can't get
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Situation 1 leads to the above situation. Situation 2 actually lead to a school being forced by lawsuit to give a girl sole valedictorian status even after realizing that she only had a better GPA than the another kid because she was able to take an extra AP class (by not having to take Phys. Ed.).

Why don't we try something that (geez, could this happen?) makes sense: Allow disabled students to exempt classes that they either cannot possibly do (a quadruplegic girl should be able to get out of PE), or don't make sense (Blind kids in driver's ed), but fill the gap with another non-weighted elective (like there's any shortage of those). There, playing field's level and sensible. Why doesn't a school board have the brains, balls, or both to implement something simple like that?

Oh wait, these are the same school boards that (even before No Child Left Behind) were trying to get Special Ed teachers (like my mother-in-law) to have to be certified for Regular Ed to be considered "highly qualified" for their jobs. A teacher who is certified to teach High School Mathematics, but not certified in Special Ed can be a "highly qualified" Special Ed teacher, though...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject:

...You're not kidding. o0

I've said it before and I will say it again. Schools are retarded. Mad
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject:

Schools aer put in all the wrong positions - they're almost not allowed to do their jobs in any capacity, much less in any form that might actually work.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject:

That's...strange indeed. Like asking a paraplegic to run a lap around the school O_o; Um, yeah. If they don't have a good reason to have blind people do this, they are indeed retarded ^^;

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject:

Kugyou's comments make sense. But sense doesn't make it law. Did the lawsuit mentioned mean that the disabled person basically forced the join valedictorians out, rather than getting it for themselves when they otherwise wouldn't?


Silver Adept's right : the schools almost can't do their jobs. And when they can, so much is expected from them, that they are unlikey to meet the demands put on them... or one student takes offense and a lawsuit puts common-sense in its place for todays society.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject:

Bob wrote:
Did the lawsuit mentioned mean that the disabled person basically forced the join valedictorians out, rather than getting it for themselves when they otherwise wouldn't?



It's not that the disabled girl forced the other valedictorian out. She had the highest GPA in her graduating class, for certain, but the only reason it was higher than another "normal" student's was because of the quality point from an extra AP class, allowing her to tack on another 5 points to her grade point total when her classmate could only add 4 because he had to take PE. Had she not had the extra AP class, she would have been co-valedictorian with the other student because their GPAs would have been exactly the same.

[EDIT: Sorry for the mini-threadjack. Also wanted to mention that the girl eventually had her status as a valedictorian stripped after they found out that she had done some rather flagrant plagiarism in some of her schoolwork.]

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:10 pm    Post subject:

It's things like this that make me glad I was homeschooled.

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