Becoming A god

[Kothar_Isk]

Ok so a few months ago a friend I mine remarked that I seem to always now the right thing to say to help people out in a fair way. He went on to say that i should see if through my pagan/magickal studies I could become a god.

I blew it off at first but now 4-5 months later i cannot get the notion out of my head.

So I bring you all a few questions.
1) at what point does a man reach godhood?
2) do you thing it could be done in the time a mortal as on this planet?
3) if you were to follow this goal what steps would you take to get there?

I know that its seem silly but my sub-concience wont seem to let this idea go.

[Silver Adept]

Well, according to ideas like the system of karma, which the Buddhists in some ways eventually subvert, one could become a god by attaining sufficient good karma and exorcising or suffering enough bad karma to be reincarnated as a god. It does require the ending of this particular life cycle, but hey, godhood. Unless, that is, you're a Buddhist and want to stop all karma, rather than continuing on in a better life. Then, you're kind of up a creek for the next life, but can try again as a god.

Elsewise, well, for the Abrahamic monotheists, there is only one, you ain't it, and trying isn't going to endear you all that much to them. Perhaps embracing an innate Godly nature as one of his humble creatures, but that would make you working miracles through his authority, not your own power.

In the matters of the pagans, as best I can tell, though, one wields divine, elemental, and personal force together in the incantations and rituals. In that respect, one would not necessarily need to become godly, as one already is, or purifies oneself to become able to receive divinity or its energy into you.

That's what I've gathered. Specifics and other such things have not come across my research desk.

[Terin]

You would have to define godhood. If I think it's possible to become an omnipotent being of limitless power, I'd have to say no. If a god would be something beyond human, I'd say give cybernetics a few years As for spiritually, it depends. The real question is, if you transcend the human form, you leave all biological abilities behind. This would include memories. In a sense you would no longer be you. So I pose a question to you: Would it matter?
-T

[Kothar_Isk]

well I have gather about that but you have put it so much better than i could have.

The gathering of good karma seem like a decent way to go as a plan B.
and the pagan thing allows you to focus the divine shard ( for lack of a better term) to achieve what you will provided that the good lord and lady deem is right.

any ideas on what point if any a mortal man might become a god, you know where that fine line might lay?

edit: darn you Terin you posted as I was replying to silver adept.
anyway i guess in defining what a god is we would have to answer things like what a true worshiper of anything is and how many would youneed before your a god and such.

[Silver Adept]

Most likely, mortal men won't become gods in their lives, unless they can do enough to gather worshippers and avoid the attentions of governmental entities to ascend, a difficult prospect for many. Unless you're content with only a few worshippers and living out your godhood in relative obscurity. Gods tend to be built from the dead.

[SirGunslinger]

You become a god when you can figure out how to divide by zero, Figure out what sqrt -1 is, and you can figure out which part of the chicken a nugget comes from.

[(III)The Spork Fairy(III)]

[Tobias]

The day we become god is the day we die.

Not to be morbid or anything on the subject, but looking at gnostic and philosophical ideals, the soul is trapped in the body, and the body is what keeps us from ascending into a pure realm of the air.

In Christianity, Christ became the true son of God when he was crucified and ascended into heaven. The day we all witness the resurrection, the world is supposed to be purged by the armies of satan. Those that have been judged worthy will rise from the dead and be in a forever bliss

In the Buddhist way, one achieves godhood after one dies and his soul has gone through rebirth - and the bodhisatva has broken samsara, or the cycle of rebirth, after he dies, in which his spirit returns to nothingness.

In every story known to man-kind, the hero must die and be reborn into a godlike being. It isn't through a random act - but through a sacrifice. You have to be willing to give it all to get it all.

Not that I'm condoning that we all go and kill ourselves to bring ourselves to a greater spiritual understanding...but when your time comes, go willingly, and happily, and look death in the face and nod that the time is right.

My other explanation would come from The Chuck Palahniuk book, "Rant." If you utilize liminal time, and you are to travel back in time to the point that you would enter existence, you would have the choice to destroy it. If you do, then you are "Resolving History," and therefore making yourself into a god, since you no longer have a beginning, therefore you can have no end. This also involves destruction, which adds to my argument.

In the end, though, we won't know until that moment when we disappear. Only when we vanish will we become all powerful.

Until then, Kothar, I don't think that you could ever become a God. Not in this lifetime. You can gain the knowledge, but you can never truly understand.

[Kothar_Isk]

I have to say that I love the fact that you all have given me well thought out and well reasoned feedback on the subject at hand. Thank you all.

I think that i may finally get the notion out of my head at last. Perhaps maybe peaceful sleep well return to me.

Any MOD may close this thread.

[Tobias]