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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:16 am    Post subject: Microsoft's stupidity shows itself again.

This is ridiculous!
Did any of you see the interview Joystiq had with Aaron Greenburg?

He dodges every negative question (like any PR guy would).

Ridiculous crap!
Here's and excerpt of the ridiculousness
Joystiq wrote:
Joystiq: There have been pictures of a Canadian bundle coming out that includes Halo 3 and the WiFI adapter, so I think a lot of people were hoping some of that would trickle onto the new Elite SKU. It's got a new package and everything. Why the decision to keep the WiFi adapter out when you have a $300 PS3 that has Blu-ray and WiFi built-in out of the box?

Aaron: I mean our position on that has not changed. Our philosophy this generation was to not make people pay for things that they weren't going to use. So at a base experience, that's why you get a console out of the box; you get a controller out of the box; whether or not you want storage – we know some owners want that, some don't – so that's why we offer the two SKUs, with or without storage. The ability to connect and get online is built into the console; whether or not you need WiFi is something that we do separately. So it's the way that we define the system and part of the philosophy that we've taken this generation.

Joystiq: In terms of hard drives, the $299 PlayStation 3 SKU also comes with a 120 gigabyte drive, the same size that's in the Xbox at that price point starting Friday. Except Sony's hard drive is less proprietary, easier to upgrade, and you'll be able to upgrade it far cheaper. With a lot of the offerings on Xbox Live now really exceeding the ability of the Arcade SKU -- look at a game like Shadow Complex, for example, which wouldn't even fit on a Memory Unit at all -- that the expensive hard drives, it seems like you're losing some feature parity there where the competition's offering the same size drive and the ability to upgrade for far cheaper. Any plans to reduce the price of hard drives or to make that upgrade process easier?

Aaron: Well, I think we've done a couple of things. First, we've enabled a lot of online experiences that don't require the hard drive, so if you think about what we did with Netflix last year or what we're doing this holiday by taking our entire video library -- movies and TV shows -- and making them instantly streaming. So, you know, there's no download required, so that's something as an Arcade owner you'll now be able to experience. You know, even 1080p movies at the press of a button. Things like adding Facebook and Twitter and Last.fm, those are all really rich experiences that are not hard drive intensive or storage intensive.

So, you know, on one hand we're doing that. On the other side, we're taking our premium SKU with our largest hard drive, the 120GB hard drive, and lowering the price of that by $100, so making that much more affordable for customers that do want the storage and do want to download a lot of games. And so we kind of feel like we're trying to add more value on both ends. We obviously have taken a different approach doing that then perhaps what our competition's done, but we think it served us pretty well and, you know, if you look at the sales results I think they reflect that.

Joystiq: So, here's something that I want to try and cut you slack on so I'm hoping you're going to give me a nice answer: pricing of the WiFi adapter? It's not being included with this new Elite SKU. The price is currently $99 MSRP. Is Microsoft planning on cutting the price of the WiFi adapter?

Aaron: We have not announced any change to our accessory pricing as part of this announcement.

Joystiq: You're killin' me ...

Aaron: That is your answer.

Joystiq: You're killin' me.

Aaron: Well you know you don't have to buy ours, I mean there are other solutions on the market ...

Joystiq: Sure. The thing is, if I go and buy a USB adapter for an old laptop, it's $9.99. But then if I go and buy Microsoft's version it's $99.99 so there seems to be a pretty serious price disparity going on. Consumers aren't dumb and they see this one on the shelf that's $9.99 and here's this other USB adapter that's right next to it that has Xbox branding on it and it's 10 times the cost, that's a little difficult to rectify. And I think – especially with the $300 Slim coming with not only a Blu-ray player but built-in WiFi – I think a lot of people expected Microsoft to include that in this new SKU. To be honest, I'm surprised that it's not at least being lowered.

Aaron: ...


My big thing with this is he's saying "not make people pay for things that they weren't going to use" ... but sony is giving you that piece included in their' machine whether they use it or not.
I mean... EVERY console (even portables) this gen has wifi. The fact that MS doesn't just include it is retarded!
And don't even get me started on the hard drive... he didn't even come close to that question... just let it bounce off him.

Douche!
And people wonder why I hate MS!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject:

Well you're missing the point of the interview. You see some people want a lot of information and some just want to know that information is there for when they choose to access it. He's giving you a choice as to whether or not you want to know a lot or a little. Now the competition may tell you everything there is but some people don't need to, or want to, know all of that. This has served them well in the past, as the numbers show, and he doesn't see a need to change.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject:

Nobody is going to give a straight answer to a negative question. Not now, not ever, never will happen. It'd be like admitting they screwed up, and the PR guys pretty much do not want to do that under any circumstances unless, I dunno, Hitler happened or something.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject:

I agree shuri, but the joystiq interviewer threw him some bones, trying to give him an opening to explain why people who haven't purchased a system yet should go with the 360, and the guy just sat there. I mean toward the end of the interview he seemed almost pretentious. Might as well have been the Apple XBox 360. No offense to PO Mac owners, unless you're pretentious. XD
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