Church vs. State - Where do you draw the line?

[Reverend]

I started this debate by saying that school vouchers would end up breaking the first amendment. Ted proved at least my arguements wrong, and then Righty decided to join in.

So, I want to put it to all of you to become constitutional scholars and legal experts so we can get the right ruling on this. Barring that, just give your opinions on the matter and perhaps we'll get a good debate out of it all

[Metal Man]

I'd attempt to insert some sort of meaningful argument here, but I honestly can't think of why this is an issue... ^_^

Being strongly catholic, I haven't noticed a line. It's a good idea to directly separate the two, though, so that they are in NO way involved with each other's jurisdiction. Just don't ask where that begins and ends, because I honestly couldn't tell you.

Politics scare me. Proof the world is secretly run by monkeys.

ie. George Bush.

[BWS-1]

Jezus was the man, and I beleive in his saying. Sad that we don't do much teaching the way he used to. At least HE knew how to teach in a way that people would gather around him and beg for more holy teaching. I'm not much with the Church nowdays, well, ever since it exists, but I'm with Jezus. I'm sure he'd burn the crap out of the Vatican if he'd saw how it is today.

*prays to God

B: "O come on God, ma man, send me on a holy Crusade to remove the unholy, spoiled, luxurious Vatican from this world and hunt every of there followers in hell!!!"

God: "No ..."

B: "Plz?"

God: "Thou shall not persist, are I shall show thou no mercy"

B: "But you are the god of mercy!"

God: "Says who?"

B: "Well ... the Church and all ..."

God: "Ya ... they "pray" for me to be mercyful"

B: "Ooo, heyhey, what's your plan then?"

God: "There will be an "accident" and the place will crumble to dust after a huge fire <_<"

B: "That's my God!"

*high-five to God

God: Fate-control OWNZ JOO! OMG WTF LOL!!!11!!!! *power pose

[Righty The Wonder Ghoul]

i simply believe exactly what i said in the other thread. vouchers for schools will definately help this country more than it will hurt. I see where it could be used incorrectly, however, they are used finely today. i think the use of vouchers should be increased to improve inner city schools. i have seen and heard of the areas my cousins live in enough to know that the school systems there suck and the people there were doomed by them.

but back to the subject, in todays soulless society giving vouchers to any sort of religious schools will not press a state church, and even if it did in any way start pushing a single religious view, most people would ignore it like they always do. you have to look at this subject in the point of view of todays society which, like i said, is soulless.

[Reverend]

So a question for each person to think about then:

-Do you want to mandate moral education by use of a religion, or should we not interfere with such matters of parenting?

[Breezblok]

I go to a strongly christian school where the students are very diverse. We have hindus, seikhs, buddhists and a lot more besides, yet assemblies and such promote strong christian values and there is a mandatory chapel service once a week for all pupils with no exemptions.

Personally I am an atheist, and I'm happy with other religions practicing but I despise people thrusting religion on me. Even in a private school with a history of christian discipline, is it still right nowadays to enforce christianity upon everyone in our supposedly tolerant multi-cultural society?

[D-Trix]

[Sperrit]

[Akira]

as long as they still sell hot bikinis and booty shorts to hot young girls my age...and dont take my snowcone stand or my mountain, and dont ban snowboarding...ill be fine...

[BWS-1]