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Shino
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject: WoW Talent Distribution

If you guys get to 60 (Cobbi's already there) what route are you going to go? And do you have comments for other peoples ideas?

Here's what I think I'm going to do. After doing some research on http://www.thotbott.com I came up with this...

What do you guys think of this... it's kinda the way I would like to go...

Holy Mastery - 31 points
Spiritual Focus 5/5 - Gives your Flash of Light and Holy Light spells a 70% chance to not lose casting time when you take damage
Improved Holy Light 3/3 - increase the amount healed by your Holy Light spell by 12%
Illumination 5/5 - After getting a critical effect from your Flash of Light or Holy Light spell, gives you a 100% chance to gain Mana equal to the base cost of the spell.
Improved Blessing of Wisdom 5/5 - Increases the effect of your Blessing of Wisdom by 20%.
Divine Favor 1/1 - When activated, gives your next Flash of Light or Holy Light spell a 100% critical effect chance.
Improved Seal of Righteousness 5/5 - Increases the damage done by your Seal of Righteousness by 15%.
Divine Wisdom 5/5 - Increases your total Mana by 10%.
Sanctity Aura 1/1 - Increases Holy damage done by party members within 30 yards by 10%. Players may only have one Aura on them per Paladin at any one time.
Holy Shock 1/1 - Blasts the target with Holy energy, causing 365 to 395 Holy damage.

Retribution Mastery - 20 points
Improved Blessing of Might 5/5 - Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Blessing of Might by 20%.
Benediction 5/5 - Reduces the Mana cost of your Retribution spells by 15%.
Improved Seal of the Crusader 5/5 - Increases the Attack Power bonus of your Seal of the Crusader and the Holy damage increase of your Judgement of the Crusader by 15%.
Deflection 5/5 - Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Notes
Improved Blessing of Wisdom is pretty useless for me b/c I don't use it, but it is a prereq for Divine Wisdom
Sanctity Aura is pretty useless for me b/c I won't use it, but it is a prereq for Holy Shock.
I put nothing in my protection path due to the fact that Deflection is the best passive defensive talent a Pally can get and it's in Retribution.

I want that Holy Shock! I have way to much fun with Exorcism (which is now Rank 2 w00t!) when fighting undead to not get Holy Shock. It seems to be very similar 'cept you can use it against anything. To bad the earliest I could get it is level 40. And that would be doing my full Holy Path listed.

This gives great healing potential to the Pally from what I understand.

Cast Devine Favor
Cast Holy Light (Critical success due to Devine Favor)
Judging from my current critical heal, at top Rank, does ~2000 HP
Illumination gives back the mana I spent to Heal in the first place.

Total cost of heal... cost of Devine Favor = 51 mana - 15% reduction due to Benediction = 43 mana

I like the look of this path.

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Daijaga
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 2:11 pm    Post subject:

(from www.neverdawn.net)

My Palladin build on optimising varible defence or offence using primarily a 1h + shield approach. It gives me every skill I want and at the Ranks I want them.

Holy: 0
Sorry Holy, no room for you if I want to get everything I want out of the other two trees.

Protection: 21
Improved Devotion Aura: 4
Redoubt: 5
Toughtness: 5
Shield Specialization: 5
Blessing of Sancutary: 1
Holy Shield: 1

Idea here is to get Holy Shield and get your passive defence abilties up, no more, no less.

One point had to be taken from Improved Devotion Aura to pay for Blessing of Sanctuary, which reduces the end bonus from 1/4 to 1/5, which is the price you pay for versitility. Alternativly, Improved Devotion Aura and Blessing of Sancutary can be scraped alltogether for 5 ranks in Improved Seal of Justice for a PvP focus or Improved Seal of Fury for a PvE focus. This is probably a good idea if you plan on using Retribution aura maxed out in Retribution tree, see below

Retribution: 30
Improved Blessing of Might: 5
Improved Seal of the Crusader: 5
Deflection: 3
Vengence: 5
Seal of Command: 1
Anticipation: 5
Consecration: 1
Conviction: 5

Damage damage damage. BoM, Crusader, Vengence and Conviction all add to bottom line damage. Deflection and Anticipation are used to burn up requistie points for Consecration while still keeping the focus on the defence + attack power ratio. Consequently, the 5 ranks in Anitipation can be moved to Improved Retribution Aura for additional damage, reccomended if you dont max out devotion aura, see above

Seal of Command was a novelty to an extent, but its hard to over look an entire skill for one measily talent point. In a PvP situation, switching over to a 2h for one or two swings momentarly with Seal of Command can be particularly devistating and can help you break through abilities like Holy Word quickly. Survivability is the Palladin's key power, however, and its advisable to switch back to 1h + sheild shortly ther after and judge out the SoC.

Note: After seeing some effects in action, I've reassigned my points in Seal of the Crusader (which was basically ruined after the fix) into Benediction, which primarily effects the steep mana cost of Consecration. The advantages to using Seal of Righteousness with full ranks of Vengence and Conviction are obvious to the attack power boost from Seal of the Crusader. 10% or greater crit %, 15% extra phys/holy from vengence, Seal of Righteousness over performs and also judges better for the same mana cost. Seal of the Crusader is essentailly only useful for when you are trying to get higher proc returns from chance on hit abilities like firey enchantment or judgements like Judgement of Light.
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Cobalt Katze
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:45 pm    Post subject:

My current Hunter build is this, and I think it works very well, especially for endgame stuffs:

Beast Mastery - [5]

Improved Aspect of the Hawk - [5/5]
Increased ranged attack bonus by 20%

Marksmanship - [35]

Improved Concussive Shot [5/5]
Gives Concussive Shot a 20% chance to stun for 3 secs.

Improved Hunter's Mark [5/5]
Increases ranged attack bonus by 15%

Lethal Shots [5/5]
Ranged crit chance +5%

Aimed Shot [1/1]
Ability: 3 second delay shot that increases damage by 300 (final rank)

Barrage [2/2]
Increases damage done by Volley and Multi-Shot by 10%

Mortal Shots [5/5]
Increases damage bonus done by ranged criticals by 50%

Hawk Eye [3/3]
Increases ranged distance by 6 yards.

Scatter Shot [1/1]
Ability: Short-ranged shot that deals 50% weapon damage and confuses the target for 4 seconds. Damage removes effect.

Improved Scorpid Sting [2/3]
Reduces stamina of target by 20% of the ammount of strength reduced by Scorpid Sting.

Ranged Weapon Specialization [5/5]
Ranged damage increased by 5%

Trueshot Aura [1/1]
Ability: Increases your party's ranged and melee damage by 50 (final rank) Lasts 30 mins.

Survival [11]

Precision [5/5]
Increases chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%

Improved Wing Clip [5/5]
Gives Wing Clip a 20% chance to immobilize the target for 5 secs.

Deterrence [1/1]
Ability: Increases Dodge and Parry by 25% for 10 secs.

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Daijaga
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: WoW Talent Distribution

Shino wrote:

Improved Blessing of Wisdom 5/5 - Increases the effect of your Blessing of Wisdom by 20%.


Id eat a man for this talent, with Blessing, Judgement, and Seal of wisdom as it is I can already maintain my holy shield constantly and wind up with surplus mana - with the bonus I could experiment with keeping consecration on too *drool*.
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Shino
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:17 am    Post subject:

The only time I have ever used mine is when I was fighting with another Pally. He used Might and I used Wisdom.

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Cobalt Katze
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject:

You'll be using Blessing of Wisdom a whooole lot in parties with anyone that uses mana (Everyone except Warriors and Rogues). Also immensely useful in groups is Blessing of Kings, but sincer yer going holy spec that's not an option.

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Sciler
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject:

I myself have my druid set up at lvl 37 with 27 points in Balance. Once I unlock Hurricane and have one or 2 other things maxed with 5/5 Ill put the rest into restoration. I dont use feral enough to justify putting any points in there

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Terin
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject:

Right now I'm putting everything into the assassin and subtlety traits, and as soon as I start getting poisons I'm gonna go crazy, hehe. So far my fav rogueish combo is
stealth-backstab/gouge/backstab/eviscerate. After that I can slice and dice my speed and since I duel wield, I can cut em to pieces til gouge refills, then I repeat if need be. Gotta love combo points! Smile
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