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Shino
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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:55 am Post subject: 360 price revealed |
Well I'm really not impressed either.
Everyone has been complaining about the PS3 being expensive when the price is revealed...
I think it will come out for $400. And will include both a wireless controller and wifi.
The 360 you have to add $100 to get it wireless, then it comes with a wired controller in the base package... what's up with that?
And they are charging $100 for the seperate 20G HD. Wasn't Sony selling theirs for $100, but it was 40G and came with FFXI. What's up with that?
Their "Memory Unit" is $40 and is 64M. You can get a 256M memory stick pro duo for that much now. What's up with that?
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/08/17/news_6131245.html
| Gamespot wrote: | Xbox 360 pricing revealed: $299, $399 models due at launch
The 360 gets two spins: the $299 "Core System," and the $399 fully-loaded package with 20GB hard drive, wireless controller and headset, HD cables, and remote control.
As the Big Three (Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo) planned their business tactics for the next-generation console wars, none have been willing to divulge their strategies, lest competitors get the scoop. All that was left was for industry media, fans, and analysts to speculate on what would be of the new consoles.
In its quest to get the console out in time for the holiday season, Microsoft hasn't exactly kept the shutters drawn on its secrets of its next-gen contribution, the Xbox 360. Pictures of the console surfaced before its debut on MTV, its name was exposed before the company could spin it itself, and the prospect of standard wireless controllers came with no strings attached.
Today, Microsoft laid down new facts about its upcoming console at the Games Convention in Leipzig, and they sounded awfully familiar to analyst predictions and forum posters' speculations.
Microsoft announced that the Xbox 360 will be released in two SKUs, the "Xbox 360 Core System" and the "Xbox 360." The two products will be sold at $299 and $399, respectively. The two systems break down as follows:
Xbox 360 Core System - $299 (299 Euros, 209 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•Wired controller
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership
•Standard AV cables
Xbox 360 - $399 (399 Euros, 279 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•20GB detachable hard drive
•Wireless controller
•Wireless Xbox Live headset
•High-definition AV cables
•Ethernet cable
•Xbox 360 Media Remote Control (limited time)
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership
Peter Moore, Xbox corporate vice president of Worldwide Marketing and Publishing, who spoke with GameSpot, reiterated that the Xbox 360 is still on schedule to launch simultaneously in North America, Europe, and Japan this holiday season. Details on the specifics of the Japanese release will be disclosed at this year's Tokyo Game Show, which begins September 16.
He explained that the idea behind the two choices came from "lessons learned from the first generation [of Xbox], but perhaps more importantly to provide the gamer with choices in pricing as applicable to their gaming habits." In addition, gamers will be able to select from a range of peripherals, available at launch:
• Faceplate ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Hard Drive (20 GB) ($99.99, 99.99 Euros, 69.99 GBP)
• Memory Unit (64 MB) ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 22.99 GBP)
• Wireless Networking Adapter ($99.99, 79.99 Euros, 59.99 GBP)
• Wireless Controller ($49.99, 44.99 Euros, 32.99 GBP)
• Play and Charge Kit ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Rechargeable Battery Pack ($11.99, 14.99 Euros, 9.99 GBP)
• Controller ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 24.99 GBP)
• Headset ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Universal Media Remote ($29.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• Component HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• S-Video AV Cable (US) ($29.99)
• SCART AV Cable (Europe) (24.99 Euros, 17.99 GBP)
• VGA HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
It's too early to get a reaction from gamers on Microsoft's pricing plan, but a few analysts privy to the information were able to chime in with their thoughts.
One analyst who spoke with GameSpot said, "I think tiered pricing makes sense, particularly as Microsoft wants to offer hard core gamers more advanced services. $299 is clearly a price leader and headline grabber, but I imagine they initially expect to ship (and sell) a majority of units at the higher price point. Also, with a $299 SKU, they avoid disappointing consumers, who are likely to compare launch pricing with the PS2 in 2000 and original Xbox in 2001."
The analyst adds, "As far as the publishers are concerned, Microsoft needs to make sure that publishers are making games that can be played with or without a hard-drive, and I think they are communicating this message."
Michael Pachter, of Wedbush Morgan Securities, wasn't as cheerful. He sees the $299 model as a "publicity stunt." "They're doing it to say they are launching at $299. The hardcore guys will absolutely not buy the $299 model...Only a complete idiot would buy the $299 model."
Pachter references Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi's statement saying the PlayStation 3 would "be expensive" as an attempt to "psych Microsoft into charging $399." But, he sees the $399 price point as providing Microsoft with breathing room to lower the price once the PS3 is released, which is projected to be in 2006, or even 2007.
Regarding the release date, Moore said there have been no announcements made primarily for competitive reasons, but also because Microsoft was still monitoring the production flow of the console's components and localization of launch titles. "One thing we won't do is underserve the market and leave retailers high and dry. That never works, that just leaves more people who are P.O.'d at us than happy with us."
There are also still no games that are definitely launch titles. But Moore does outline the strategy Microsoft is approaching. "So much is going to happen in the next couple of months...My view is simple, you need to make sure that you have the key genres covered at launch. Take care of sports, racing, action-adventure, fantasy, first-person shooters. I think there are check marks that need to go in boxes to make sure that gamers have games they are looking for in a particular genre. We're still tracking 24 to 40 Xbox 360 games for release before the end of the calendar year. I think you'll see that all the titles we got excited about at E3 are still firmly in that launch window [90 days from the release of the Xbox 360]."
But what about gamers who aren't ready to jump into the next generation? Moore seems pleased with the current success of the original Xbox, and doesn't see any price drop with the console. "We’re selling all we can get [made]. Our biggest challenge is to meet demand and what is typically a very quiet time of year. So no, I don't see any plans to change any pricing as we currently stand on the Xbox." |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
ooo oo a detachable face plate incase someone steals my xbox while im not home! |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject: |
Haha.. I feel torture on Blackmage's part from Unnamed Roomies  ..
*detaches faceplate*
But anyhow. Seens how I used a lot of my last console system. I probably will pass this one up for which ever one has the best RPG's
And to think.. the PS2 should drop in price when these go out |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject: |
oh yeah... forgot about that hoth.
lol but would you actually detach the face plate or just leave it on? |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
remember it's too "customize your 360"
Oh, I can change the way my 360 looks based on my mood by buying more $20 face plates.
How amazing...
more like retarded. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
So what's next...downloadable loading screens? |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: |
The bundle will be 500 bucks Canadian...i'm seriously wondering if i will buy this now...and they sell the 20 gig hard drive seperatly if you want for 129 bucks cnd...what the hell? you can get a 160 gig hard drive these days for that price...i will want to know and see the difference in loading of games and what not if you dont have the hardrive...
If you add 2 games plus taxes on all that,it comes close to 700 bucks for everything.Pretty damn expensive for a console.
They should of made one kind and sell it in between,the bundle one,for 349 bucks or something..,2 kinds will confuse a lot of people who will bring it back and curse the XBox and Microsoft etc,etc....i will probably buy the bundle at launch anyway,because i'm a game addict hehe but i still think it's a little steep...
Undecided still...and from reading all the negative feedback everywhere,it's astoundingly high against this pricing,i bet MS will change it...(whishful thinking i know). |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: |
Well here is my thought on this pricing scheme.
M$ will still be losing money on the $400 unit, but not as much as they will the $300 unit. All of the expensive stuff is in the core.
The $400 unit is ALMOST a great deal. What's a little annoying is that the wireless controller is NOT rechargable. You have to buy a "Charge and Play" kit. Which I found out comes with a rechargable battery... or so it seems.
So Wireless controllers are $70 if you want them to be rechargable.
As far as the hard drive goes. Don't be fooled by what everyone is saying. You can actually get a STANDARD SIZE HD of close to 200G for $100. But this isn't a standard size hard drive. The hard drive is laptop size. A 20G laptop hard drive is $65.
Now with that said, I expect Sony to release their hard drive for $100 as well, but they have already stated that it will be 80G. Since that's about what an 80G goes for.
So basically, the $420 package (rechargable controller) is not bad. It's $20 more than I expected b/c I thought the controllers would come rechargable. But still decent.
Their pricing on the accessories is rediculous though. I really think Sony just got some extra support out of this announcement.
If they can announce before the 360 comes out that they will have a price point of $400, and price their accessories reasonably, I think the 360 sales are going to be bad. This could turn out to be one of the worst console launches ever. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 1:49 pm Post subject: |
Screw X-Box, I say!! Suck on it, Bill Gates.
*pets her gamecube* |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:03 pm Post subject: |
| ScrumYummy wrote: | Screw X-Box, I say!! Suck on it, Bill Gates.
*pets her gamecube* |
*adds one "Shino point" to Scrummy's talley*
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