The War on Porn

[ScrumYummy]

Okay, before I start--I know that this is a PG13 board. Everything in this topic will be PG13, and I will be very careful about what I am linking to.

This just really pisses me off, and I think everybody should know about it.

It turns out Bush has taken it upon himself to create a War on Porn. This upsets me because it is very OBVIOUSLY a violation of our first amendment rights.

For example:

There is a website called the Suicide Girls (I visit using my husband's account; it's a great place, and if you would like a link to it, email me, or just google it). You have to pay for membership, and you have to be at least 18 to sign up. The content isn't even pornography, really; it's naked girls, who usually have tattoos and/or piercings, and they post photo shoots that are really artistic (some of them cute, some of them sexy, and some of them downright beautiful). Anyway, the FBI have contacted them and gave them a list of photoshoots that they have to take down, or they go to jail. Now, let me reiterate--every.single.shoot. is a concenting adult (or two or three consenting adults), being photographed by another consenting adult, being viewed by consenting adults, and can only be viewed by consenting adults.

Where is the problem here?!?! Doesn't it say in the lawbooks that this is okay?!?! What the hell gave the FBI the right to take away our civil liberties??

I will tell you what. This "War on Porn" was passed in congress, overnight. The public hardly even noticed. The public wasn't given a choice.

So what can you do?

Research people before you vote on them. Let's not let these f***ers back into office. Not just for the sake of porn, but for the sake of OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS!!!!

Sorry. This issue just...really pisses me off, that it can happen overnight without anybody knowing, that our civil rights are being stepped all over, that progress is being rolled backwards and we are being censored, that there are better things the government can be spending money on than trying to hunt down pornographers. Say, for example, gulf restoration?!?! All the people that were made homeless by the barrage of recent hurricanes, all the cities that were destroyed??? Or how about keeping terrorists out of our f***ing country?!?! When the hell are they going to start spending money on that????

Yes, folks. This is a wake-up call--your government would rather spend money putting artists in jail than catching terrorists.

Uh-huh. ///End Rant

[Zzyxx]

OK, gonna try very hard not to get political.....

I agree first amendment rights need to be protected, but i am not against a "war on porn." I'll keep my personal views on porn out of this, but it should be more closely monitored and controlled. I mean any kid could his hands on hardcore porn easily. I did from the time was in 6th grade till about two years ago. Granted i'm from the south and fairly conservative, but i still their should be alot more monitoring of these sites if fo rno other reason than to keep minors out. Would it be a violation of first amendment rights to completely remove porn: yes. Would it be prudent in the intrest of minors to make it harder to find or access: in my opinion, yes.

That's all i'll say on that.

[ScrumYummy]

[Shurikane]

Okie-dokie. Got any ideas on how to setup a way to effectively keep children away from porn sites with minimal cost of money, knowing that this minimum will be further reduced by whichever company/government had decided to implement in the first place?

I know one: password your computer's boot sequence and turn it off. Try having a kid mess around with porn when he can't even turn the computer on.

[Godwyn]

[KenseiKurisuchan]

[KiSin]

Oh wow, that is a smart thing to do.[/sarcasm] So, he is doing what, shutting down american porn sights? That's great, now what about the porn sites from, say, Europe or Asia. Oh and what about Australia...C'mon do something better with our money.

[Zane]

Look, honestly this isn't going to change anything. Kids are still going to find a way to find porn, be it through friends or their dad's dirty magazine collection in the attic. I agree with ScrumYummy, this is in a way a violation of First Amendment rights and the fact that the FBI is making fun of this new "war" shows it's going to blow up in Bush's face.

[Terin]

[Andsectoid]

Personal Note: I do not really think this soo much as a political issue but a social issue that concerns all people. I was kinda pissed when I wrote those so please forgive me if I start babbling. Now on with the show:

Once again I am going to take to anti-government stand.
That government is best which governs least. -Thomas Paine
Do not let the morality of the few infringe on the rights of the many.

"The worst government is the most moral. One composed of cynics is often very tolerant and humane. But when fanatics are on top there is no limit to oppression."-H.L. Mencken

I believe that government has a lot bigger things to deal with than port on the Internet. It is NOT government’s job to shield little Joey from the evils of the Internet. Just like I believe it is not the job of the government to save little Johnny from the evils of TV.

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."-Thomas Jefferson

That is what parents are for. The idea that government has to have a handle on every facet of life is the very foundation of a socialist society. “You do not have the ability to think for yourself so government has to do it for you.” It scares the hell out of me.

"Capitalism harnesses human self-interest; socialism exhausts itself trying to kill it." -Linda Bowles
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy."-Winston Churchill

How would you feel if all the anime at AWA had to be reviewed for proper content? If it did not pass a very vague set of “norms and values” it could not be shown AT ALL. Yes they check IDs to go into the “naught” rooms but isn’t that what the sites are doing?
Remember, “the FBI have contacted them and gave them a list of photoshoots that they have to take down”. I am sure these shoots are inside a protected site. It is not as simple as showing an ID. I am sure a CC has to be provided. How many people do you know have fake IDs. How many of those same people have face CCs that work. Which is better for protection.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither safety nor liberty." -Benjamin Franklin

But I degress. The main reason this pisses me off is because this is the WORLD WIDE web. They can regulate sites in the US…. What about the rest of the world? Can they not just open shop over seas? Gambling is illegal but you can go online and gamble all you want.
This is waste and waste of the worst kind waste that will not provide anything meaningful other then another area of control.

If you don’t want the programming complain to the networks and the sponsors. If the magazine offends you do not buy it. “Money is power”, that is the root of a capitalist society.

"...economic history is a long record of government policies that failed because they were designed with a bold disregard for the laws of economics."-Ludwig von Mises
"Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself."-Milton Friedman"