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Shino Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:19 am Post subject: Isn't it bad enough that people smoke this crap! |
Now they have to make candy that tastes like pot.
Give me a freakin' break!
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70 million pot smokers.
No wonder this country is so fucked up!
One of my best friend's Mother's smoked that shit.
while he was living there
Then she had another child
and still smoked that shit while she was a baby.
Now he is fighting to get guardianship of her and get her out of the mother's hands. I hope he does! |
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reaper I miss you Shar

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Isn't it bad enough that people smoke this crap! |
Shino wrote: |
70 million pot smokers.
No wonder this country is so fucked up!
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I am not trying to get into a drug debate but that’s completely wrong. How is it marijuana smokers fault? Its funny how alcohol is worse for your body, kills brains cells and your liver. While THC molecules are 100% harmless.
Drinking completely screws up your motor skills making driving extremely dangerous, let alone walking. Oh and it also completely blows your judgment that’s why you have people driving drunk, and drunk chicks getting taken advantage of ect. ect. Where as Cannabis only slightly slows reaction time, and doesn't impair judgment at all. And actually increases blood flow to the head making the thought process much more lucid
Oh yeah did I also mention it makes men more violent and women much easier? Where as I have never seen someone violent while on marijuana in my life. Oh and here is the kicker alcohol is much much more addictive than cannabis is. Ever wonder why we have Alcoholics Anonymous, but absolutely no funded cannabis addiction centers. . .hmmm I wonder why that is
Now of course like the woman you sited there are people that just shouldn't smoke it. But there are 10x more people who should be drinking. Every substance that alters your thinking will have risks; however THC changes them in an arguably better way over alcohol. You forgot to mention the millions of people who get drunk and abuse thier spouses, or thier children, and just generably being a prick. The worst a kid ever got from me when I was high was a hug.
So it’s so nice of the United States government to protect us from such an obviously dangerous substance.  |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:42 am Post subject: |
Quote: | We’re catering to the audience of people who are in that smoking culture... |
This is really what pisses me off the most. This "smoking culture" that seems to have emerged, that tries to make it seem like there's absolutely nothing wrong with smoking. I just don't agree with it, and no matter what you try to say, there's nothing that's going to make me accept this FALSE culture.
"Smoking culture." The truth is in the statement itself. If you have become so obsessed with a behavior, especially a negative one, that you begin to associate yourself with it and base your life and decisions and choices around it, you have a problem. And there are apparently 70 million Americans with this problem, and it's a shame.
And you know what? If you want to target this "smoking culture", then do so in a means where you don't interfere with REAL culture. Not that I'm condoning anything, but if you want to make pot candy, sell it through pot-enthusiast websites, or other means where you don't have the residual effect of exposing your product to children, especially. The store owner's that choose to sell this also deserve a slap on the wrist for not having the common sense and morality enough to not sell a potentially dangerous product in such a public outlet. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: |
I really don’t want to do this but you’re not giving me much choice lol.
Oh my god you guys are so clueless to what cannabis is its funny.
If cannabis is illegal that drinking definitely should be too. But do you know why cannabis is illegal? Because it goes against the 'status quo"
Did you know Cannabis has been put into the "Schedule 1" category of drugs. This means, according to our fine government, it’s extremely dangerous and has absolutely no medicinal value what so ever. Now any half sane person knows this is total bullshit. Cannabis is one of the most medically significant substances that occur naturally on our planet. Like we all know it does wonders for glaucoma, but it also helps sleep apnea, Insomnia, Chronic pain, depression, migraines, oh and a side bonus is it also increases your metabolism with regular use making your skinny as hell loll.
It has been used as an herb all throughout human history, and it is theorized that it was one of the, if not the first plant ever agriculturally cultivated by man. People forget that we were hunter gatheres, and they had no quams about using plants that had other purposes besides nutrition. Drugs like cannibus and pyslisiben ect. are in our very long history wether you like it or not.
Partly for its medicinal values, but that’s not even the half of it. Hemp fibers can be used for a number of things, making stronger ropes, clothing, high quality fabric for things like sails, and a food source can even be derived from hemp.
Hemp production in America could save the American farmer, but do we care? No. Because "marijuana is such a terrible drug, I mean I don’t know from personal experience, but that’s what the propaganda says so it must be bad!" Give me a god damn break.
If you have ever had a drink of alcohol in your life shut the hell up about the horrors of cannabis. Alcohol is a drug, exactly like THC is, only it’s a much more negative and harmful one.
And stop lumping the 70 million people who smoke into one group, that’s really pissing me off, I love cannabis, love the taste when I smoke it, but a sucker is just god damn retarded.
I love how the government makes criminals out of 70 million mostly otherwise law abiding citizens, just because they choose another way to relax. Yeah land of the free my ass
Jeez now look what you gone and made me do  |
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Shino Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time

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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject: |
yeah pot is used for medical reasons, but perscription and not nearly in the doses that people who just smoke it b/c it's "fun" take it in.
Alcohol can be dangerous if abused. But the fact is that one or two drinks isn't bad. As a matter of fact, they say a glass of red wine every once in a while is good for you.
It takes the average person at least 2 drinks to have any affect at all. Hell, Shan had 4 and she only weighs like 100lbs. She hardly had any affect that was noticable. Then it takes even more to have the negitive affects in most cases.
However as soon as you smoke you feel an affect. And you know what, I have seen way to may stupid ass high people to take anything you say about it not "affecting judgement" seriously.
And you know what... I don't give a shit whether it should or shouldn't be illegal. The fact is that it is illegal. And whatever you think about the government and their policy on it is irrelivant to this topic.
I've seen it too many times... illegal = expensive. People waste their money on this shit when they should be using it for other more important items of life.
College student pot head, smokes pot, fails out, keeps smoking, leads to horrible life.
Yeah... I have seen that happen... to several people that I used to know actually. So say what you want Reap about how you think pot is ok. You will NEVER change my mind. I have seen it screw up too many people and watched it ruin a family. And if you think that it doesn't kill brain cells, you are again being misled. But you go ahead and keep doing it.
Me, I'll stick to other forms of getting a "high." Like hitting a softball 300 feet over a fence and trotting the bases. Yeah... that's my way of getting high. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject: |
Shino wrote: | Alcohol can be dangerous if abused. But the fact is that one or two drinks isn't bad. As a matter of fact, they say a glass of red wine every once in a while is good for you. |
And Cannibus is only dangerous if abused, and addiction rates are lower, so the chances are greater for alchohal abuse.
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I've seen it too many times... illegal = expensive. People waste their money on this shit when they should be using it for other more important items of life.
College student pot head, smokes pot, fails out, keeps smoking, leads to horrible life. |
Just like the ones who drink to much n fail out. But hmmm I smoke and maintain damn near a straight A average, so its all about the person, if they are a dumb ass n drop oput cause of cannabus, well they probably wouldn't hack it anyway. Oh and smoking is actually much cheaper than drinking, and its more expensive in my region than other places.
Quote: | Yeah... I have seen that happen... to several people that I used to know actually. So say what you want Reap about how you think pot is ok. You will NEVER change my mind. I have seen it screw up too many people and watched it ruin a family. And if you think that it doesn't kill brain cells, you are again being misled. But you go ahead and keep doing it. |
just like I have personaly watched drinking ruin several families, and heard about countless more. Oh and what I said about THC not killing brain cells is a medicly varified fact. Your brain has receptores which accept the molocules doing no harm. trust me I have read so much litrature on drugs and thier use it would make your head spin, not to mention having PERSONAL EXPERIENCE to base my statements on.
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Me, I'll stick to other forms of getting a "high." Like hitting a softball 300 feet over a fence and trotting the bases. Yeah... that's my way of getting high. |
Thats awesome man, I am in no way saying anybody should smoke pot, I have never pressured anybody into it. All I want is for it to get a fair shake of the stick which it is most definetly not getting.
But no one will ever listen to me cause you all have made up your minds long ago. So i take my leave of this topic. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject: |
I have not smoked marijuana. I have been around people who have smoked. From what I observed, there were some side effects to the drug, but they were generally coherent and lucid. If a little giggly.
There are studies, contrived or otherwise, that support both the conclusion that pot is dangerous and that it is not.
That said, the idea of pot-flavored candy is certainly interesting. Give you the taste without the buzz that goes with it. Might be good for people who think they're addicted to pot and want to break free of it. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:05 pm Post subject: |
reaps, you're a good guy, and I mean no offense, but look what you're going to make me go do...
reaper wrote: | Cannabis is one of the most medically significant substances that occur naturally on our planet. Like we all know it does wonders for glaucoma, but it also helps sleep apnea, Insomnia, Chronic pain, depression, migraines... |
But that's not what it's used for today. (Oh, and did you know that heroin was originally a cure for morphine addiction?)
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It has been used as an herb all throughout human history, and it is theorized that it was one of the, if not the first plant ever agriculturally cultivated by man. People forget that we were hunter gatheres, and they had no quams about using plants that had other purposes besides nutrition. |
But that's not what it's used for today.
reaper wrote: | Drugs like cannibus and pyslisiben ect. are in our very long history wether you like it or not. |
And whether you like it or not, that's irrelevant to the discussion. And since we're on the topic of irrelevance, beer has also been traced back about 5000 years ago.
reaper wrote: | Partly for its medicinal values, but that’s not even the half of it. Hemp fibers can be used for a number of things, making stronger ropes, clothing, high quality fabric for things like sails, and a food source can even be derived from hemp. |
But that's not what it's used for today. (Are you starting to see a pattern emerge?)
reaper wrote: | Hemp production in America could save the American farmer, but do we care? No. Because... |
...that's not what it's used for today. And as a side note, I haven't heard hemp getting flack from anyone, so again this is irrelevant.
reaper wrote: | If you have ever had a drink of alcohol in your life shut the hell up about the horrors of cannabis. Alcohol is a drug, exactly like THC is, only it’s a much more negative and harmful one. |
I'l give you that I don't have any experience with smoking pot, but an important difference I see is that I can have a drink without being affected AT ALL. It may be more negative and harmful...but it's also legal. Why?
reaper wrote: | And stop lumping the 70 million people who smoke into one group, that’s really pissing me off |
So where do you put them? You're telling me that if you smoke pot, I shouldn't place you in a group of "people who smoke pot"? So does that mean I should associate myself with the group of people who are "residents of Nebraska", even though I live in Connecticut?
reaper wrote: | I love how the government makes criminals out of 70 million mostly otherwise law abiding citizens, just because they choose another way to relax. |
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades...
See? See what you made me do? You see how you are!  |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:23 pm Post subject: |
No offense, Shino, but... who cares? This is marijuana we're talking about, not black-tar heroin or meth. You're not going to die or go comatose from smoking a joint.
Seriously, why the fuss? Do you smoke pot? No? Then fine, don't. Noone is making you. If someone chooses to, that's their business and noone else's. I really do not see what the big deal is about some backwoods company noone's ever heard making novelty pot candy. |
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Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject: |
Man I wish I had my computer online.
I would join in this discussion to say the least, having "been there and done that". |
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