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Hoth
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 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject: Bleep Bleep. And the corporation just made my day!!! |
In response to the below article I noticed on my lovely Yahoo.com News page. I thought I would publicy put my opinion out there.
| Quote: | For whom ever is reading this,
The movie industry can afford to lose a couple of $$$ each year as they really dont do squat but entertain us.
What is the difference on someone hooking up 2 vcr's or using a DVD recorder and some Div X software to copy the films after renting or borrowing them in the first place.
The movie corporations need to not charge the people downloading the films (especially if they are a 12 yr old kid) and attempt to go after the people originally pirating the films.
Your not stopping the flow of this by charging the end culprit. And knowing what I know about Peer to Peer the top exec's need to take a crash course in "If it has been deleted or moved out of the folder then they can't share it"
Also there are movies out there that are flagged as copywrited movies in which the individual ISP's notify the actual account holders when such a violation occurs and advises them to delete and not share the files.
Sue some guy $600,000 because you didn't get your bonus check iritates me beyond belief. You guyz can afford to loose some money to put you in line with the rest of the world and get off your pushy platforms.
And if you really wanted to get into it. Count the number of Middle class working individuals working paycheck to paycheck that could and would knock you off your pillar because you were trying to screw them outa their own hard earned money because you altered up some peice of paper that says you should be paid this amount for making 90 mins of crap. |
And here is the link to the article.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20051102/ap_on_hi_te/movie_downloads_1
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:22 pm Post subject: |
What irritates me is that they already own three of the four movies that the boy downloaded. I think the trigger-happy nature of the movie and music industries is revolting--suing twelve-year-olds (not just this one, but there was a little girl a few years back that was sued by the music industry for downloaing MP3s). Yes, it's illegal, but they're going after the wrong people. Go after the people that host servers where you can download movies and music, not some naive old man who had no idea his grandson was using the computer to dowload movies that they already own.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: Bleep Bleep. And the corporation just made my day!!! |
[quote="Hoth"]In response to the below article I noticed on my lovely Yahoo.com News page. I thought I would publicy put my opinion out there.
| Quote: | For whom ever is reading this,
The movie industry can afford to lose a couple of $$$ each year as they really dont do squat but entertain us.
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YES FINALLY I FOUND SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME ON THAT! |
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shadokastur
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject: |
My question is why don't they crack down on the "leaks" that get the movie out before it's available to buy and leave the people who want it alone?! If they really want it they'll buy it but not if it's FREE! Choades. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject: |
| Quote: | | "Basically what you are doing when you use peer-to-peer software is you are offering someone else's product that they own to thousands of other people for free, and it's not fair," Bernards said. |
Not fair?! Ladies and gentleman, there we have it, the entire movie and music industry's reasoning for cracking down on pirating. "It's unfair!" Oh boo hoo hoo! Cry me a f*cking river. It costs you $5.4 billion dollars a year? I guess that just means you're gonna have to pay shit-head actors and musicians reasonable salaries insted of $20 million+ a movie. Oh yeah, speaking of "not fair"...how come I have to bust my ass (theoetically of course...as I'm unemployed right now) to make ends meet, while some jackass that doesn't really have any talent gets to be put in ONE movie and make more money for it than I'll probably make in my entire life?
You want to talk about "not fair"? There are MILLIONS of starving children all over the world. Do you know how many of them could be fed by Julia Roberts' $25 million per movie? Or how about Cameron Diaz's $25 million + a percentage of the overall gross?
| Quote: | | Kori Bernards, vice president of corporate communications for MPAA, said the movie industry wants people to understand the consequences of Internet piracy. |
Oh yeah...the "consequences". I fogot that the argument has been made that internet piracy funds terrorism. And oh yeah, who could forget the biggest consequence of all....50 Cent won't be able to buy that 9th Hummer with the 24" rims that he just HAS to have.
Seriously, this all really pisses me off to no end, but the MPAA and the recording artist jackass group (I forget the name...I think RIAA or something) just prove their own stupidity in the way that they react to these things. Sue a 12 year old for $600,000? Oh yeah, that's a GREAT idea. Way to vanquish the piratey-beast. While you're at it, you might as well seize his bicycle and put a lean on his allowance so that in 40,000 years, he'll be able to afford to pay you your $600,000.
| Quote: | | The suit was filed after Lawrence refused a March offer to settle the matter by paying $4,000. |
This is my favorite part by far though. He's being sued for $600,000, because he refused to settle for $4,000. Let's do the math on that one. If you're in DIRE need to make back your $600,000 because so many actors' and musicians' lives are being SOOO affected by the loss in money...then why the hell are you willing to settle for less than 10% of what you're suing for? It just proves that it's bullying. You might as well meet the guy in the park and beat him up for his lunch money. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
| Ming wrote: | | This is my favorite part by far though. He's being sued for $600,000, because he refused to settle for $4,000. Let's do the math on that one. If you're in DIRE need to make back your $600,000 because so many actors' and musicians' lives are being SOOO affected by the loss in money...then why the hell are you willing to settle for less than 10% of what you're suing for? It just proves that it's bullying. You might as well meet the guy in the park and beat him up for his lunch money. |
What I think would be a really fair settlement would be the price of the movie that they hadn't already bought--$20. Or maybe even a rental price of $3.99, since they only watched it once and then deleted it. It's not the kid was seeding the movies, just downloading, watching once, and deleting. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:08 am Post subject: |
So I'm skimming the article and I see the below paragraph:
| Quote: | | Kori Bernards, vice president of corporate communications for MPAA, said the movie industry wants people to understand the consequences of Internet piracy. She said the problem is the movies that were downloaded were then available to thousands of other users on the iMesh network. |
Wait. Let me re-read that.
| Quote: | | She said the problem is the movies that were downloaded were then available to thousands of other users on the iMesh network. |
Hold on. I guess I'm missing something here. These movies were then available? As in, they weren't available to the members of the iMesh network before the kid downloaded them?
What magical land did these movies come from, then?
And to top it off, the kid is noted by his grandfather as having immediately deleted the files...I seem to remember from CS4302 (Special Topics: Common Sense) that not having a file on your computer keeps you from being able to share it, over a P2P network or otherwise. So the situation here is that the grandson downloaded these movies from somewhere, causing them to be shared on iMesh, but deleted them after downloading them, leaving them to be shared on iMesh.
If this dastardly grandson/grandfather piracy mastermind team gets taken for all they're worth by the sorely injured MPAA, I just have one question:
Can I have this magical computer?
Seriously. Without getting into the politics of numbers, or the piracy/copyright holder fight itself, this is still patently ridiculous. The MPAA/RIAA specifically targets those people who are least likely to defend themselves - non-computer-savvy adults and their minor children.
Whether the populace thinks digital "piracy" is horrible, a necessary evil, totally sweet, or something else altogether is really rapidly becoming irrelevant. The question that first needs to be addressed is the matter of targeting the source, not the destination. On this, I concur completely with Shadokastur - why aren't they ("they" being the RIAA/MPAA) targeting their leaks?
Well, I think we can guess why - that would mean that they would have to audit their constituent companies. Considering that the RIAA and MPAA really amount to nothing more than self-regulating (and I use that term about as loosely as is possible) lobby groups whose sole purpose is to act on the positive behalf of their constituent companies, I'm not seeing an Internal Affairs investigation any time soon. Rather, I see more of the same - see the leak, blame bootleggers (because you know DVD-quality copies of movies are of course created by guys with camcorders in the theater), direct legal threats at the household of anyone you can possibly accuse of receiving the file, especially if you think they're too weak to fight back.
Sigh.
I'm really starting to get into demi-boycott mode by now. What's a demi-boycott? Here's the principle (well, at least my version of a demi-boycott).
- Only watch movies you have to watch. If you are convinced you are going to die if you do not see the latest Tim Burton film, go see the damn Tim Burton film (I will probably be in the theater with you, too).
- Do not pay to watch any movie that does not fall under Rule #1. I am not raising a call-to-arms for piracy here, but rather things like:
- Wait for it to get on HBO/Showtime/Cable.
- Borrow your friend's DVD of it.
- Go on with life without seeing the movie.
Mmph. Well, it's been fun ranting at y'all, but I need to hit the hay. Take care, PO's. |
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