User CP :: Log in to check your private messages :: Chat :: Register :: Log in

Board Index :: Album :: FAQ :: Calendar :: Members :: Groups :: Staff ::
Search
Post new topic   Reply to topic
graphic E3 downsized and redated? graphic
Author Message PO Info
Shino
Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time


Age: 49
Gender: Gender:Male
Joined: 15 Sep 2002
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject: E3 downsized and redated?

July now... and... at a fraction of the size?

Why?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6154961.html

Gamespot wrote:
E3 renamed, rescheduled, and drastically resized
[UPDATE] ESA president reveals 2007 expo will be held in July at a Los Angeles hotel--and will only have around 5,000 attendees.
By Brendan Sinclair, Tor Thorsen, GameSpot
Posted Jul 31, 2006 5:40 pm ET

While next year's newly downsized Electronic Entertainment Expo remains slated to take place in its longtime location of Los Angeles, the show is apparently going to be leaving behind its traditional May date on the calendar.

An industry analyst and a representative of the City of Los Angeles Convention and Visitors Bureau have both told GameSpot that the event's organizers at the Entertainment Software Association mentioned moving the show to July.

The idea behind the move is to give publishers more time to polish their holiday releases, the analyst said. Publishers apparently weren't pleased at rushing their schedules to have late-year releases ready for the show each May.

[UPDATE] This afternoon, ESA president Douglas Lowenstein confirmed for GameSpot that E3 2007 will indeed take place in July, though he could not pin down specific dates. He also mentioned that the event will no longer be held at the Los Angeles Convention Center, but instead will take place inside conference rooms at "at least one" hotel in the city.

[UPDATE 2] As one might expect, the relocation from the sprawling LACC means that attendance at E3 2007 will be just a fraction of the previous year. Speaking to the Wall Street Journal, Lowenstein said he expects around 5,000 people to be on-hand at next year's event, way down from the 60,000-plus-size mob that stormed the expo this past May.

Lowenstein said the drastic reduction was in response to exhibitor dissatisfaction with the spectacle E3 had become. "Some companies were frustrated because E3 was such a huge, sweeping event it became increasingly difficult to get their messages out," he told the WSJ.

Lowenstein also revealed to the WSJ that E3 is also getting a new name. Starting next year, the event will be called the "E3 Media Festival," hinting that it may offer more than just games.

_________________
So many games... so little time


Reply with quote
Wins 190 - Losses 169
Level 21
EXP: 11590
HP: 3150
Eligible for battle!
STR: 1050
END: 1050
ACC: 1200
AGI: 1200
Bianco & Nero (Sabers)
(500 - 600)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Razer
4934 5157 5662 5658



Gender: Gender:Male
Joined: 07 Oct 2002
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:39 am    Post subject:

I can't see any logical reason for this so I'll have to guess. The people behind it must be seeing that the event is slipping. Consumers get their info the same day online so Publishers don't have as much reason to spend enormous bucks on floorspace. Also the cost of print advertising and game webpages (free) offsets the actual event. Without willing game companies, you have no income.

This still doesn't fully support shrinking it as such (why not just add 2-3 Open Consumer Days or something?) but it's the only thing I can fathom. And with EA and others paying as much as $5mil apiece, all you need is 4 such companies and you make $20 mil. You anger the city, state, and local businesses (taxis, hotels, etc)...I'm truly dumbfounded by this.

_________________



Reply with quote
Wins 91 - Losses 107
Level 15
EXP: 9225
HP: 2217
Eligible for battle!
STR: 443
END: 887
ACC: 1315
AGI: 1255
Me Trusty Axe (Axe)
(302 - 618)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
Girkon
Chop Chop Fiend



Gender: Gender:Male
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject:

It's actually a lot simpler, it all comes down to pricing as it costs a whole lot to make all the booths, hire or pay extra for people to maintain it, and in the end it's the games that suffer for it because they have to focus on the exterior which wastes time that could be focused on improving the game itself. In the end I think it will be more beneficial as it's supposed to be more about the games than anything else, and I think it's kinda lost it's meaning in that sense.

Think to all the games that didn't get as much attention or were played back because those ocmpanies didn't have the proper finance or space to put as much focus on them. With this downscaling it brings the possibility of making more games have better focus and therefore be brought into the public eye faster.

Plus in all honesty it hardly effects the vast gaming public as the odds of us ever going to E3 at all were slim to none as it is.

_________________
Reply with quote
Wins 83 - Losses 79
Level 14
EXP: 10839
HP: 2800
Eligible for battle!
STR: 1000
END: 900
ACC: 800
AGI: 1100
Devils Star (Sword)
(380 - 510)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger
Robb
My freedom begins here


Age: 40
Gender: Gender:Male
Joined: 01 Nov 2004
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject:

PAX is gonna benifit hugely from this, or so they reckon on penny arcade

_________________
'The darkest moments of our lives are not to be buried and forgotten, rather they are a memory to be called upon for inspiration, to remind us of the unrelenting human spirit and our capacity to overcome the intolerable'
Vince Lombardi
Reply with quote
Wins 24 - Losses 39
Level 8
EXP: 7314
HP: 2400
Eligible for battle!
STR: 800
END: 800
ACC: 800
AGI: 800
Jagged Edge (Axe)
(265 - 445)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Ultrawolf
Mr. Roarke



Gender: Gender:Male
Joined: 04 Jul 2003
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject:

I read about this a while ago and I have to say you guys are taking it at the wrong angle. Sure it's easy to complain about them downsizing E3 but when you look at the numbers, E3 stopped making sense in the checkbooks ages ago. So much mindless expenditure, and does the turnaround really justify the cost? It's hard to say. Remember that E3 used to be just for industryuntil they slowly started loosing that and it turned into lights and consumer extravaganza. Is it really worth spending so much money on some rediculous HD displays to demo a new game? Also, you have to figure that E3's been a blackhole of gaming information. Yea it's pretty awesome to have tons and tons of info coming out, but alot of stuff gets washed away by the tide of hype and anticipation of the Halos and Zeldas. If I were a publisher, why in the name of all rational thought would I want to be competing with announcements of new Zelda games for information. Nobody would care about whatever game I'm peddling. It's a huge funnel of expenditure for sometimes little return.

I would rather have my information spread throughout the year than jam packed into one big bang. And I completely understand with downsizing the event. Everyone just needs to get over the fact that E3 wasn't made for THEM. If you want to have a consumer event, PAX or Digital Overload is where you should be looking.

_________________
Welcome...
Reply with quote
Wins 115 - Losses 130
Level 17
EXP: 831
HP: 2800
Eligible for battle!
STR: 1000
END: 900
ACC: 1100
AGI: 1000
Legacy (Shotgun)
(400 - 550)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address MSN Messenger
Shino
Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time


Age: 49
Gender: Gender:Male
Joined: 15 Sep 2002
PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject:

I do remember when it was just for the industry. E3 has been around for 12 years... 2 of those years, it was here in Atlanta. I got to go those 2 years... as part of the industry. B/c I was working for a retail company.

Even when it was just for the industry, it was easy to get into if you weren't part of the industry.

I kinda like the flood of info, but I kind agree with wolf that I would like to have info throughout the year... But I still like the flood.

I do see some good in the downsizing of E3. It will be come less of a pissing contest on the show floor.

Smaller companies get overlooked now a days at E3 b/c their booths are not nearly as huge and elaborate as the big 3.

_________________
So many games... so little time


Reply with quote
Wins 190 - Losses 169
Level 21
EXP: 11590
HP: 3150
Eligible for battle!
STR: 1050
END: 1050
ACC: 1200
AGI: 1200
Bianco & Nero (Sabers)
(500 - 600)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Tiroka
The Nocturnal Legend



Gender: Gender:Male
Joined: 21 May 2003
PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject:

I think there will be some benifits from this. But i will still miss all the action there. As much good as it will do for the industry (i will admit that much), I will still miss all the fun to be had.

May it rest in peace.

Tiroka
Reply with quote
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
Display posts from previous:   
graphic graphic
Post new topic   Reply to topic Board Index -> Pixels and Polygons
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT - 4 Hours
Email this topic to a friend

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum