The True Cost of Food: please read

[Nacht]

synopsis: the food we eat is not nutritional and the animals suffered for years so that we could eat them. "what goes around comes around." well what do they get? what do they get for their slavery, for this holocaust? animals that are fed garbage, and are milked until their bones dissolve cannot possible give us nutritional food. you are what you eat.

we can buy food for such low prices because so little was put into the food to begin with. the crops are grown on top of eachother, with no time to replenish the soil. we process food so quickly that workers are not given food or bathroom breaks: often times relieving themselves in the fields. chicken is processed at 90 chickens per mintue. this means that 30% of workers have fingers and hands chopped off in the machines. most of them are illegal immigrants and cannot get medical assistance. we have ecoli etc in our food because vegetables and animals are processed in the same plants. allowing feces to contaminate our vegetables. waste runs freely into nearby water sources contaminating environment and fish. WE HAVE CREATED A NEW DISEASE AS A DIRECT CAUSE OF THIS! it is called pfisteria. it contaminates fish and is a level 3 hazard. ebola is level 4. aids is level 2. we are poisoning ourselves, and for what? so that most of america is grossly overweight. we don't NEED to consume this much food and resources! gluttony is a deadly sin for a reason.


the less we pay for food, the less effort was put into harvesting that food. how can we even know the nutritional information on food is even accurate anymore? those statistics are from years ago, when we weren't consuming more food than we can create.

bottom line: buy organic and natural foods. they are more expensive, but you get what you pay for! they were harvested under natural cycles they way food was meant to be eaten.

the following is extremely graphic for those who want specific details; but we need to know the truth about ourselves!!

do you know where your food comes from? do you know what really happens at slaughterhouses?
none of this is exageration! people with strong stomachs should watch the movie earthings. there is film footage proof about everything i am going to write!

cows: first, their horns are chopped off with giant scissors: no anesthetic. the scream in pain as blood gushes from the holes. next, they are branded. on their FACE. then they live their lives in small cages or rows; with dripping, infected wounds. (remeber, we are going to EAT this rotting cow) they are fed hormones and insectecides until finally they are beaten, sometimes to death over to the slaughter rooms. if the slaughter rooms are not in the same building, they are crammed into trucks so tightly that they suffocate, starve, and EAT eachother as they are transported. there are many ways the animals we eat die. there are guns that shoot steel posts into their brains. this is MEANT to kill them painlessly, but they rarely die from this. some are beaten over the head with clubs or hooks until they fall, but they are still not dead. then they are hoisted up by their leg, breaking it, and hung upside down while their necks are slit. they still do not die after this. keep in mind that they have been suffering a while now. then they are conveyored, still hanging by their legs, over to the chopping machines. THEY ARE STILL ALIVE WHEN THEY GO INTO THE MACHINE!

milking cows: the lifespan of a cow is 20 years. milking cows do not live past 4 years. they are kept perpetually pregnant and milked until they fall over from exhaustion. some of them fall from their bones just breaking because their bodies have been stripped of calcium. now think about this: if the BONES of the cow have no nutrients, how can the MILK THEY ARE MAKING possibly have any nutrients left? when these cows collapse from overuse, they dragged into trucks AND SOLD AS FAST FOOD. ever wonder why you can get a burger for a DOLLAR? because it a cow that was used up and dying anyway.

kosher: the jewish people meant kosher death to be PAINLESS. humans are not supposed to touch the animal until it is dead. in kosher slaughterhouses, the animals are fed into a machine that allows only their head to stick out. thier throats are slit, and then they are flipped upsidedown. now they are breathing their own blood. then the handler rips out their esophagus and trachea. THEY ARE STILL ALIVE. then they are dumped out onto the floor where they lie bleeding for several minutes while the next animal is treated the same.

pigs: baby pigs move down an assembly line where they have various parts of their bodies CUT OFF. first, their tails with scissors. then their ears, in little bits at a time. ( i am NOT exagerating, watch the movie) then their teeth are ripped out or chopped in half while they scream in pain. this is because if they do not chop these off, they will eat eachothers faces, tails, ears, sides, etc. why would they behave this way? because they are terrified, malnourished, beaten, etc. they are litterally mad from this treatment. then they are treated in much the same ways as cows. they remain alive through all of the killing process, but it is not over for pigs at this point. then they are put into a machine that strips their skin off like an apple peeler. then a handler burns them with a blow torch over the stripped area. THEY ARE STILL ALIVE!! the purpose of this is too remove the thick bristle on their hides. then they are fed into the butchering machines.
some pigs have their skin burned FIRST, then they are tossed aside while they cool. their skin comes off in huge flakes while they cry. handlers force slop down their throats as they lie in agony.

chickens: first item of business: chopping the front half of their beaks off. this is done very quickly. with dull chopping machines that are meant to chop and cauterize. the temperatures are rarely hot enough, nor are their beaks held there long enough to actually cauterize the wound. imagine about 50 chicks looking around, terrified with blood running from their beaks. to slaughter them, they are either hung from their feet, or beatne or hacked at with machetes while they are still running around.

dolphins: yes dolphins!!! are eaten in asian countries; especially JAPAN! they are herded together by use of sonar devices to confuse them. then, several are chopped and/or hooked so that they will bleed. dolphins never abandon a wounded family member. this ensures that they will stay in the nets. then they are tied by ropes to the backs of trucks and dragged through the streets while school children look on and laugh. (not exagerating, watch the movie) japan also kills whales for food etc, and dolphin meat is often labeled as whale meat.

circuses: the animals are beaten and cut at with hooks so that they will behave. have you ever wondered why elephants will do all of those funny tricks? it isn't for rewards, it is to avoid being beaten or cut. imagine a baby tiger being trained. it is kicked, stabbed, and beaten into submission. do you think that they have housing while they are not performing?? no, they are left in their cages in all manner of weather.

clothing: if your leather says "made in india", it came from a cow that was bought from a family there. it is illegal to kill cows in idia, so the animals are forced to walk for miles without food or water. when the fall, their tails are broken and their horns are twisted so they will keep moving. chili pepper is rubbed into their eyes until they are crying blood. they are dragged in and out of countless trucks, breaking their legs and pelvises. Yet still they must walk, broken or no, or they will be tortured into action. the people curing these hides use caustic liquids that eat their skin away from their hands. they tie plastic bags over the wounds and keep working. all so americans and germans can wear leather coats.

furs: foxes, wolves, raccoons, etc are locked in tiny cages. exposed to all weather. there are pictures of raccoons covered in ice and shivering, huddled together. there are no laws governing the killing of these animals. some are electrocuted over and over again until they die; some are clubbed or thrown against the floor and walls. this is when the handlers are nice enough to KILL THEM. imagine piles of skinned animals, AND THEY ARE STILL ALIVE. panting; crying. a white baby seal coat goes for about $50,000.

**edit: i did some research and cannot find that this is true. but it is a widespread rumour at the very least:
blood collected from the slit throats of cows and pigs is collected and used for dyes such as red # 40. think about that next time you drink kool aid or drink code red.
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we need to be held accountable for our actions!

[RivaOni]

There was soething similar to this on the BBC a few months ago, truly shocking stuff, we were buying frozen chicken at the time, we bought one the following wek and you could see the burn marks on the legs from where they'd been stood in their own urine! It wasn't the fact I'd been eating this stuff for god knows how long that sickened me, it was the fact we were feeding it to our daughter and were none the wiser.

Our eating habits have changed since, all meat comes from our local farm butchers and we try and buy fresh fruit and veg from the local markets. The only problem there is you have to rely on stuff being in season, but that just makes your menu throughout the year that little bit more interesting.

Did I mention we don't eat prossessed food anymore either, well mostly anyway.

In fact, since we've been buying food this way, we've spent less and felt less hungry so frequently than we did before. For a fortnights food we spend around £100 ($200 I think) for the three of us, but that includes mroe than just meals, and also dog and hamster food. Compare tjhat to Chixies mum who spends around £300 A WEEK on junk food and microwavable junk and you begin to wonder why people buy stuff like that (other than them being lazy arseholes)

[Gekko]

Yeah, but they sure do taste good!

[Al the DLOE]

i do not care about their suffering. i also kill my own food too and i cause the MAXIMUM system shock to make the kill quick and lower pain.

now on the issue of the mutilation of the workers...still not caring...i would try to but not sure i can. ever.

the cows: removal of horns NEVER involves anesthesia unless it is a local numbing agent. i have raised beef cattle and they are money on the hoof as far as i see them. living money but still just money. most now are killed with a captive piston pistolwhich uses a blank to move a sharp bolt in a tube to nail the medula oblongata in the back of the head. w/o that no breathing, heart beat, or other autonomic functions.

chickens: no thoughts ever. just birds

Pigs: raised a few. lovingly fed them, cared for them, pet them. i even named them. and when the time came i put the gun to their heads and killed them without a thought. they were there to be food and thus became it.

dolphin: wantto try one

if it moves in the air, on land, or in the sea, it is to be considdered for food. i eat snake, rabbit, squirrel, and many fuzzy creatures. i grew up in the country so i am familiar with eating or at least trying most anything.

[Nacht]

yes, but were the animals ALIVE when you flayed, skinned, removed their organs ets

why is their pain less important than ours if it can avoided? why is it less HORRIFYING because it is an animal?

now don't get me wrong, i DO think humans are meant to eat meat. i have no problems with eating an animal that was not tortured its whole life and suffered horrible acts on it as it died. i have no problems eating an animal that was not fed garbage and hormones.
those hormones affect us too, yah know. look at all of these little 11 year old girls running around with boobs bigger than mine! that is because we eat growth hormone in our food.

here is a great quote for you
"human are the only species on the planet that inflict pain on others on purpose and KNOW and UNDERSTAND that they are doing it. yet do it anyway."

just be informed and know what you are really eating! know what that food went through to get to your mouth.

there is disease out there called pfisteria. it is a level 3 hazard. ebola is a 4 and aids is a 2. WE CREATED THIS DISEASE!!! it formed by the tons of waste from our hog farms running into our water. if we don't kill ourselves by contaminating our food, we will do it by contaminating our environment. pigs stand over grates where the waste runs out around the building. there is footage of rats living underneath. billions of fish are dying of this disease at the waste runs into the water. the come up to flop on the banks with huge gaping sores in their sides. the government and the plants WILL allow a few of these to slip through and then do a recall later. just like they know that processing vegetables in the same buidings as animals causes contamination and they have done nothing about it!

[Al the DLOE]

i understand what it went through. i just have no emotional attachment about what i would willingly kill to eat even with out our mass industry for food harvesting. about the ebola, please give me the world health organizatio,CDC or some other medical research information to back up this claim. if we did create this i wonder if it was an engineered one or was it an accident like the hanta outbreaks that happenend in the south west as the rodent population booms occured and no rain washed away the fecal matter that when it became dust spread the disease.

and on another lighter note of this i was short growing up since i did not have the hormone enhanced foods my friends had. i was the mutant with normal size stats... and now which group has the higher risk of cancer later in life? (AMA Stats) now lets end this discussion before my fatigue leads this into a full flame war...i dont want flames...i just dont agree with you

[Ming]

[FawkesFyre]

I just think this is a rather loaded topic compared to what else I've seen posted during my time on PO.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I was with DLOE when he posted his last response. I'm afraid he's being taken out of context in that his intent is not to end the entire discussion but to simply agree to disagree.

Supply and demand is to blame for how we currently obtain our hamburgers, milk and pork chops. But the question is, what can you do about it? Riva has the alternative to use local farm butchers, is saving money by doing so and is getting a better quality product.

But, we don't all have options to take. I guess I just don't want to know where my food comes from. It makes me sick to read this thread. I'm an animal lover...even raising your own food is psychologically worse in my mind. DLOE hunts and I have an understanding with him that I don't want to see any incling of what my food looked like before it hits the skillet.

I'm a carnivore, and intend to stay one. I wish animals did not have to suffer in order to feed me but there's really nothing that can be done about it. At least not around here. I don't have the stomach for it but researching this beyond the film Earthings might help to solidify what's happening around the US to our livestock. The more sources that provide identical findings, the better.

[Chixiethepixie]

I know that this is slightly off topic but it is sort of related.This is just one of the problems with the world and there are many things linked to this topic including parents working longer hours and business' wanting more profit from their sales-it seems that people no longer care about what is in the food that they are feeding to their children

Im disgusted by the amount of junk food that i see parents buying in the local supermarket ie turkey shapes,ready made pies, packet gravy for heavens sake(how long does it take to make a pot of gravy-its not rocket science), microwave food,-Look at the huge numbers of obese, inactive children and it is beyond a joke-these sorts of food are responsible for the badly behaved chlidren that we have around.

There is an advert on the tv at the moment for a pasta sauce and they state 'secretly blended two vegetables into the sauce' simply to get kids to eat their veggies-this is stupid that is got to the point where anything that is good for kids is hidden or disguised

All parents should have to attend a nutrition course!

I feel sick when i think about animals and what not and i strongly disagree with furs(disgusting things) and i wish that there was a more humane way of getting the meat.

[Ming]