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Chibi Knight
Wouldn't you like to know
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 Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
I can totally see Scrummy tattooing in HAZMAT suit and in a totally white sterile room - like in ET.
Not sure if that would make me feel any safer tho....
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ScrumYummy
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
| Doot wrote: | Hey scrummers! I am tossing this thread by way of my bro. He's always curious about shops and stuff. Too bad you don't live in Cincy! His shop is pretty nice, very clean, and everyone is pretty damn cool in it. They'd rather not do flash stuff and tend to lean towards custom work. :)
Bummed it didn't work fer ya! And more bummed you're gonna be 3000 miles away again! |
Your brother sounds really cool. I am sad that I don't live in Cincy =(
*huuug* I don't like the fact that it's so far away. But it's where I belong.
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | Like the chemicals in ink. In the right dosages and mixtures, they aren't going to kill you. |
...Hold that thought.
For one, every ink uses a different carrier. Even within the different ink manufacturers, there are different mixtures per "ink." Ink is basically a pigment suspended in a carrier; pigments can be organic (such as plant-based pigments), synthetic/plastic, or metal salts. Carriers are where you should be concerned; like I mentioned, tattoo ink is not regulated by the FDA and some manufacturers use potentially toxic substances in the carrier solution that can cause damage in the future. They can't kill you, but they could give you cancer.
Basically, ask your artist what ink they use, and if it's an established brand or if they have reviewed the MSDS themselves and approve, then you have nothing to worry about.
| Graillik Tur wrote: |
The veg*n thing...a lot of you are SOL. There just isn't a high enough demand for animal friendly products in this area of business. Can you get it? Yes, but it's gonna take some asking and begging from your artist.
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Actually, the brands that carry vegan-safe ink, such as Stable and Eternal, are highly regarded manufacturers and are considered some of the best inks. If your artist doesn't want to use these inks, they probably have other (somewhat shady) reasons.
| Graillik Tur wrote: |
The alcohol thing is not exactly true. If your artist knows what they are doing they will clean the needles pre ink with the gun in a machine. Don't know what the machine does, but it works.
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...what the hell are you saying? That didn't even make any sense XD!
Okay, when I was talking about alcohol on the prep area, I was talking about skin and open wounds, not the needle. The artist shouldn't have to clean the needle, s/he should be using one-time use needles only, which come out of a sterilized package. Most artists do anyway because it makes the customer trust them. As for the machine, what component are you talking about? o__O
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I guess the point is, if it looks like a newly released prisoner would feel at home getting a tattoo at your local shop...move on. If you think your hip trendy rich friends would feel at home getting a tattoo at your local shop, your probably good to go.
Last thing...what ever you do...and I love tattoos...do not get a tat just to get it. Wait, think, and design. Nothing says I'm stupid like a P.O.T. in the small of your back at 45. And you have to explain it too the kids. Geez, what do college girls think sometimes. |
Probably the best advice in your post. X)!
| Legend wrote: | You could always just come and live in Atlanta! ^^ We'd be -totally- happy to have you here, that's for sure!
But yeah, I figured that was why, I remembered you mentioning in a previous comment on DA that a guy there had recommended it all for you and whatnot. Drama is overrated. ^^ I'm glad you clarified here, though.
I think that's part of why I've always been adverse to the idea of tattoos-- the places always look so dodgy even from the outside, and there are -so- many health concerns it's scary to think about. ^^ But I'd definitely have no problem if I knew you were doing it, since you -are- so avid about the rules and safety and such. I think it would come down to knowing and trusting the place/person in the end. |
I would be SO HAPPY to be there and with you guys. I don't know that Max would do it, though. >.<
*nodnod* Chibs PMed me and asked what happened, and I figured that I should clarify it with everyone. Plus, it feels good to vent >.> And that guy on DA, after I left the shop my visitor's box showed that he was checking my page EVERY DAY. Who does that unless they're looking for a reason to start something?? O__O
*hugs* thank you...I never thought there was any reason not to trust tattooists, then I started doing research so that while I was apprenticing, I would know what I was doing. Eek gads, what I found bothered me o__o not to be paranoid of all shops, just that the shop I was in was not as trustworthy as I thought it was.
All this makes me want to be an artist even more, though. I want to be one of the good ones, who knows what they're doing.
| Chibi Knight wrote: | I can totally see Scrummy tattooing in HAZMAT suit and in a totally white sterile room - like in ET.
Not sure if that would make me feel any safer tho....
CK phone homeeeeeeeeeeeeeee~
ouuuuuuuuuuuuuchhhhh~ |
LMAO. Chibs, you're nuts XD!
I wouldn't go as far as a hazmat suit XD but I would do everything I could to ensure the comfort and safety of my patrons. Including research into the inks I use to make sure that they are good. |
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Graillik Tur
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: |
Well...everything can give you cancer. Eating meat can give you cancer. Sun can give you cancer, breasts can give you cancer, colons can give you cancer. My point is, people have been getting tattoos for a long time with minimal effects. I wouldn't run up the red flag just yet.
2. When I got my my tat my guy put his gun in a little box to clean it, along with needles. It is true he had just pulled the needles from a unopened package, but he put them in there. It was a little white machine that looked like a microwave. No idea what it was, but he said it was a cleaner.
3. I've poured Isopropal Alcohol in open wounds before. It burns like hell, but unless your drinking it or putting massive amounts in your body another way, like a syringe, it's not toxic 'enough' to kill you. Trust me, you have to ingest rubbing alcohol to die from it, even then, you can throw it up and drink milk, and be better in hours.
As far as the veg*n friendly inks, that just may be my ignorance but all the places I have been before (4 or 5) I never thought to ask about that. I'm not even sure what an animal friendly ink would entail as I believed all inks to be mostly metal based to keep pigment, and your body would break down animal products anyway. No clue why you would use a biodegradeable substance in a perminent picture. |
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ScrumYummy
bunnyhunches of scrums
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
| Graillik Tur wrote: | | Eating meat can give you cancer. |
Which is one reason why I don't do it. XD I'm not running up the red flag or trying to cause a fuss. I'm just saying that one of my problems with the other guys that worked at the shop is that they never even bothered to check what was in the ink that they were buying. They didn't care. But I do, and I feel an obligation to provide the safest service possible.
| Graillik Tur wrote: |
2. When I got my my tat my guy put his gun in a little box to clean it, along with needles. It is true he had just pulled the needles from a unopened package, but he put them in there. It was a little white machine that looked like a microwave. No idea what it was, but he said it was a cleaner.
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It sounds like an ultrasonic cleaner; it basically disintegrates foreign substances. Another possibility is that it was an autoclave. Although why he put the needles in there when he just broke them out is perplexing and somewhat nonsensical o__O
| Graillik Tur wrote: |
As far as the veg*n friendly inks, that just may be my ignorance but all the places I have been before (4 or 5) I never thought to ask about that. I'm not even sure what an animal friendly ink would entail as I believed all inks to be mostly metal based to keep pigment, and your body would break down animal products anyway. No clue why you would use a biodegradable substance in a permanent picture. |
The pigment is what is metal based (except for some black pigments that contain octopus ink; some pigments are also plant based or even synthetic); the carrier solution sometimes contains animal glycerin, which does not dissolve or degrade, I don't think. In my other posts I explained how tattoo ink is composed.
Anyway, most people don't care about the vegan inks, although there are shops that exist that are run by vegans, and all of the products they use and sell are vegan. |
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Nacht
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
thanks, scrum! i knew a lot of this, but not all.
aluminum HAS been linked with several brain disorders. what most people DON'T know is that aluminum is used to filter our water (water out of the tap). here in cherokee county and most of the state, they use large quantities of aluminum. law (and science) requires them to to allow the water to sit for a minimum of 48 hours before using the water to let the aluminum settle. georgia plants only let the water sit for 24 hours! filters that rid water of aluminum are very hard to find. only entire house filters or large disc filters that sit under your kitchen sink will do it. (that is all i have found anyway). your brita filter only removes lead and chlorine and the like. not aluminum or flouride! |
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Legend
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:23 am Post subject: |
So that's why people in GA tend to be stupider than other people! ^_- |
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Buda
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
Just thought i would interject here, there is a local tatoo place called "Dirty South tatoos"
having Dirty in the name is perhaps a bad idea hehe |
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ScrumYummy
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: |
LMAO XD! You would think that it would not be good for business o__O
Nacht--that is really, REALLY disturbing. Is anybody trying to get them to do anything about it? |
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Nacht
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
i have personally thought about it... short of shutting down the water for the extra 24 hours to start a new cycle, i don't know what else would work. they ARE expanding the plant, so hopefully with the new tanks, they will do it properly. i'm sure there is more involved than we know, since we don't do that job, but the safest thing would seem to be NOT drinking tap water.
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i think a lot of ppl don't anymore anyway. |
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