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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject:

If they haven't started production on the fourth, it's possible that they were using the third to gauge interest. Like, y'know, see whether or not they should keep going? So just in case it was the last one they threw a bunch of stuff in to make fanboys happy.

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:33 pm    Post subject:

I've been reading things that says that Spiderman 4 has already been planned and will likely go on even if the major players in the first 3 (Sam Raimi, Tobey Maguire, and Kirsten Dunst) don't.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Spider-man 3 = 2 hours of useless non-plot advancement and 30 minutes of plot with cool action.

And they killed Venom. >_> I'm not sure how they managed that but they did.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject:

Tobias wrote:
I dunno...i wouldn't necessarily say that Spiderman got into contact with Venom per-say, rather, he was met with a Symbiote, and that symbiote gets the name Venom when paired with Eddie Brock, and Carnage when paired with the psycho in the prison (don't remember what his name is.


Cleetus Cassidy.


I've only seen part of this movie and it left me really disinterested in the rest.


REY


p.s. Maybe Parker needs to find a better mask maker. Those all ripped the same way all too easily.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject:

I finally got to see it. I loved it! It was great!

Scrum: I totally have to disagree with you about Venom and "emo" Spidey. They seemed to be pretty damn close to the comic versions to me. I also really liked Venom still sounding like Brock. It made him super creepy.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject:

GAAZ wrote:
And they killed Venom. >_> I'm not sure how they managed that but they did.


I'm still trying to figure that one out myself.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:14 pm    Post subject:

GAAZ wrote:
Spider-man 3 = 2 hours of useless non-plot advancement and 30 minutes of plot with cool action.

And they killed Venom. >_> I'm not sure how they managed that but they did.


Supposedly one of the two people who died in the last movie is going to come back. The actor has been signed on for the next movie. They haven't said who it is, yet. I'd say it's Topher Grace.

Conners still has that symbiote sample. I'm sure they can come up with some way for it to bring him back. Maybe reconstruct a clone body. He was bonded to the symbiote when he died, so maybe his mind will still be alive inside it.

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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject:

Yeah but the sample that Conners had was taken from Parker's suit not from the suit that came in contact with Brock.

I'm going to assume that as one suit changes the other suits don't either cause then the Venom Carnage thing would be weirder.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject:

Arguments about Venom aside, I found a review that sums up my feelings about the movie:

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Like its protagonist, Spider-Man 3 is a movie with an identity crisis. The biggest, loudest, and darkest film in the series, Spider-Man 3 is also messy and ill conceived—a clunky, straining blockbuster that tries to accomplish everything and ends up achieving not much of anything.

Which sucks, for two reasons: First, Spider-Man's the best superhero ever, and he deserves better. Second—and goddammit, this is what stings—he's already had better. When stacked up against similar efforts—Batman Begins, X2: X-Men United, and, most damningly, Spider-Man 2—Spider-Man 3 can't help but feel pretty janky.

While the uneven but earnest Spider-Man was about Peter Parker (Tobey Maguire), a dorky kid from Queens disco-vering his great powers and great responsibility as a hero, the much-improved Spider-Man 2 balanced great characters and killer action to show Peter living up to his potential. Spider-Man 3 focuses on Peter's newfound popularity: In one scene, New Yorkers throw a great big spider-party, offering a confused but ecstatic Spidey the key to the city. Once misunderstood, the young superhero is now New York's favorite son—and it's not a stretch to imagine Spider-Man 3's usually spirited director Sam Raimi in Spidey's spandex boots. Raimi, who got his start making no-budget horror flicks with his friends, seems equally overwhelmed to be helming his third installment of a mega-popular franchise. (With a short deadline to deliver the film—and at a rumored cost of over $300 million—it's hard to imagine anyone not being overwhelmed.)

Raimi settles on an overly elaborate, cobbled-together story that lamely rewrites events of the first film and never settles down for long enough to say anything all that interesting. The biggest culprit is the script, which takes enough characters to fill Spider-Man 4, 5, and 6 and painfully crams them into a single film. The plot(s): Peter's superheroics overshadow the acting dreams of his girlfriend, Mary Jane (Kirsten Dunst, as snaggle-toothed and annoying as ever), and meanwhile, Peter's ex-pal Harry Osborn (James Franco) has followed in his supervillain father's footsteps, and is now terrorizing Peter as the New Goblin. Also: Petty crook Flint Marko literally falls into some sort of sand-based science project, thus becoming bad guy Sandman (played by Thomas Haden Church and some bad CG swiped from The Mummy movies), while the smarmy Eddie Brock (Topher Grace) tries to steal Peter's job as photographer for the Daily Bugle newspaper. Oh, and: Peter's caught the eye of the lovely Gwen Stacy (Bryce Dallas Howard), and sure, okay, also, there's a meteorite from space and some mean-spirited black alien goo, which gives Peter a new black costume that turns him into a total dick, and oh, yes, Eddie Brock gets some black goo, too, becoming monstrous supervillain Venom (played by Grace, some goofy prosthetics, and more lackluster CG).

Exhausting, right? Spider-Man 3 is bloated but shallow, and while there are some high points—an exhilarating chase between Peter and the New Goblin, a great Bruce Campbell cameo, a smirky montage in which Peter struts through New York with an ego challenged only by Norman Mailer's—it's hard to care after a while. By the time the film climaxes—high above Manhattan, with a strangely uninvolving battle between no less than five characters—it's less a question of how much $300 million can buy (a lot) and more a question of what happened to the character-driven heart of Raimi's first two Spider-Man films. Stare hard enough, and the core greatness of the story remains: As a reluctant hero, Spider-Man remains as potent of a character as he was when Stan Lee and Steve Ditko created him 45 years ago. Too bad this time around, that fact takes so much work to remember.

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject:

Gryph wrote:
GAAZ wrote:
Spider-man 3 = 2 hours of useless non-plot advancement and 30 minutes of plot with cool action.

And they killed Venom. >_> I'm not sure how they managed that but they did.


Supposedly one of the two people who died in the last movie is going to come back. The actor has been signed on for the next movie. They haven't said who it is, yet. I'd say it's Topher Grace.

Conners still has that symbiote sample. I'm sure they can come up with some way for it to bring him back. Maybe reconstruct a clone body. He was bonded to the symbiote when he died, so maybe his mind will still be alive inside it.
Osborn, he'll be a Zombie Goblin. Just you wait, Spider-man 4 = Evil Dead 4! Razz Rolling Eyes

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