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Therin
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject:

Yumi Takayanagi wrote:
Well I will put my 2 % in as well, to me even if what shadow is saying comes to be, it still won't rid of color coding, or racism, because people still have their own mind sets and ways of thinking, sometimes it's the way they were raised to think.

And even if it isn't, how they were raised, such events won't have the power OR effect to change how they think towards or of others of a different culture, don't you think?

I believe that color coding is wrong, but fact is that such a thing that has existed for so many years won't perish so easily, with such an event. It will more than likely continue. Cause like I said, it's the way some people choose to think, and even though events can have an effect. It all depends on the person. So there is a huge possibility that it will - no it will indefinitely still happen.


Prejudice is based 100% on the experiences in a person's life.

If you're raised racist, you'll be racist; you can make a conscious desicion to fight it, or you can accept it, but deep down, you will secretly have those feelings that were given to you by your parents for the rest of your life.

If you experience racism consistently in school, you will become racist, again, not necessarily some flaming white-power anti-semite who goes to nazi rallies, but it will still be there in you, whether you fight it or accept it.

This is what makes racism such an impossibly powerful opponent; it's self-sustaining. Not only that, it breeds phenomenally quickly, like a viral epidemic. Everyone who comes into contact with it, even in the smallest way, is touched and changed by it, their perceptions altered just that little bit, and so it continues to propogate.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject:

kei,
The "color coding" was used at the beginning of this thread to be an arbitrary reference to different peoples. It was not even the colors that are stereotypically assigned to those people and as such was not meant to be offensive. Sorry if it seemed that way.


Yumi Takayanagi,
If there are are no separate skin colors how will "color coding" continue? When all types of people, and subsequently their cultures, exist in one area there will inevitably be a melding. This will happen over time because as children humans experience things emotionally first and then develop rationality, structure and a sense of cause and effect. So if anything they experience makes them happy they're more likely to have a positive outlook on it. Now let's just say a young caucasian boy is out and wanders by a hispanic birthday party. The pinata is broken and the boy watches as all the kids at the party get candy. Maybe one of the hispanic adults sees him watching and gives him some candy to be nice. Even if the boy's family is prejudiced against hispanics he will hold that experience and that feeling that the gesture created inside of him and it will create a resistance and eventually it will resurface as the child grows and seeks to solidify it's own individual identity, usually around the teenage years to early twenties. This is how, slowly, the old ideals are discarded and sloughed off like a snake molts its old skin. Emotion first then thought.

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Yumi Takayanagi
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject:

shadokastur wrote:
kei,
The "color coding" was used at the beginning of this thread to be an arbitrary reference to different peoples. It was not even the colors that are stereotypically assigned to those people and as such was not meant to be offensive. Sorry if it seemed that way.


Yumi Takayanagi,
If there are are no separate skin colors how will "color coding" continue? When all types of people, and subsequently their cultures, exist in one area there will inevitably be a melding. This will happen over time because as children humans experience things emotionally first and then develop rationality, structure and a sense of cause and effect. So if anything they experience makes them happy they're more likely to have a positive outlook on it. Now let's just say a young caucasian boy is out and wanders by a hispanic birthday party. The pinata is broken and the boy watches as all the kids at the party get candy. Maybe one of the hispanic adults sees him watching and gives him some candy to be nice. Even if the boy's family is prejudiced against hispanics he will hold that experience and that feeling that the gesture created inside of him and it will create a resistance and eventually it will resurface as the child grows and seeks to solidify it's own individual identity, usually around the teenage years to early twenties. This is how, slowly, the old ideals are discarded and sloughed off like a snake molts its old skin. Emotion first then thought.


That's true emotion does take a strong effect. I guess I missed that part. gomen. ^_^

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject:

And I used the color coding to be any type of group, not just race. It can be anything we class peoples by. But I'm glad to see that we as a nation are still open to this discussion. If not...there would be no hope of resolving it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject:

I was told the other day that it is not 'possible to be racist towards a white person'-i was like oh ok.


Im sick of all this type of stuff and i think the word 'racism' is used too much and in the wrong way.

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