Outrage from an Online Quiz?!

Graillik Tur · Renaissancetaku Gender: Joined: 09 Jul 2004

I know this is gonna sound retarded but I think as the question is stated you are supposed to believe in your own God, whatever that maybe. It has be proven by psychologists that those that believe in some sort of diety tend to be nicer and more moral than those that don't. Also, if you have a specific religion in mind, you already refer to your diety as "God" just as the Natives do with Wakantanka. It's all relative to your beliefs. But I do find it funny that in a mostly Anglo-Christian society, that when you see god capitolized, you automatically think of the Christian god. If you were to do that in a middle-eastern country, it would be Allah, so it's all relative to your own state of mind.

Oh...and I had to go look it up cause I never really stopped to think about what religion is so...

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

now by that deffinition....there are a lot of things that could be a religion...even OCD could be a religion under those terms (#5). So I put this to you as kind of skirting the issue and please don't get into this to deeply...what does religion mean to you? Don't wanna know what you believe, don't wanna no what you practice, don't wanna argue about right or wrong, just what is your belief on the morallity of humans, the afterlife, the creation of man and the world, stuff like that, I guess a better statement would be "core beliefs" to use a military term. So what are they? After a few if it stays nice I might tell mine.

Akanari · Owns your reality Gender: Joined: 29 Sep 2004

First of all, I'm not letting an online quiz get to me. Razz

I'm not -that- testy. I was more reminded of encounters through the online quiz...Perhaps I should change the topic title. Perhaps not.

This might be long...

The God I was referring to is Anglo-Saxon in nature, though I think it applies to most Gods. Also, I find the sort of close-mindedness I'm ranting about more prevelant in monotheistic religions. (I am not considering Hinduism a monotheistic religion at the moment, despite the one powerful God with all its manifestations)

Ming · DOOM! Gender: Joined: 13 Jan 2003

Graillik Tur · Renaissancetaku Gender: Joined: 09 Jul 2004

Ming is right. With out the belief of a higher influence, what ever it may be, you can not set standards for action. Example. Karma dictates that the better your behavior, i.e., creating an envirornment that is condusive to the human collective, you will be visited back on with good, i.e., beneficial, things. If you do not believe that something other than man influences the enviroment around you, you can not set a standardized ideal of right and wrong. And as for Freud...man was a loose cannon to begin with. Anyone that says not pooping enough as a child can lead to homosexual tendencies or that not being breastfed and make you homicidal is not exactly the man I would bring to a party. I mean the man believed that all things were based on the preconcious instincts we have nurtured since the dawn of time. I...don't agree with Freud. A lot of nice theories, but not exactly practical in practice. Even so...the idea of the id being the uncontrolled urges of self gratification means that they are there for some reason. Now...if we say it is biology that has made us this way, biology is the higher power. Whatever instills the id is the higher power. Man can not create by design his own id, it has to come from somewhere else. Therefore, no without a higher system of order the preconcious can not exist. If you believe Freud that is.

Tobias · *explodes* Age: 38 Gender: Joined: 17 Jan 2003

Ming is very right indeed. Good and evil is something that is brought about by religion, which Grallik produced in his earlier post, is partially a set of written code and rules.

What I have to add to this for the moment, before i start delving any further, which will contradict what i just said: Right and wrong is developed by society.

My argument for that: Religion is created by man to explain the unknown. If that's the case, then man creates the rules that religion creates: therefore, rules are created by man, as is right and wrong.

as far as that quiz - that's this gents' business and beliefs. I don't think he's right. In fact, i think he's quite stupid...but i am 52% evil Smile

Zinka · Otaku Knight Gender: Joined: 28 Sep 2004

Okay, I don't have much time to reply to a lot so I'll make this brief which means it wont make much sense:

I think the idea of good and evil, or right and wrong, whatever you choose to call them, are definatly not something humans created.
It's intrisic to human nature wether you believe in a god or not. Think about it, iof you're waiting in line for something for a long time and someone cuts in front of you you're going to say it's unfair, wether you believe in god or not. Why is it unfair? what are you judging it on? It's not really hurting anyone or you and yet you're most likely upset about it. Maybe it goes against your idea of human decency or social moral. Where does this moral come from? The thing is, I believe everyone bleieves in right and wrong naturally, there is this idea in people that they are supposed to treat other people a certain way and this is the difference between right and wrong at its most basic level.

I don't know if I explained that well enough but asically what I'm saying is I don't believe that humans created right and wrong. It's a natural feeling, whether you believe in a god or not and no matter how you choose to explain it.

ScrumYummy · bunnyhunches of scrums Gender: Joined: 29 Jun 2005

Zinka · Otaku Knight Gender: Joined: 28 Sep 2004

scrum...if it really is the same people every week then yeah, thats overboard. People should know when to move on. Mostly I guess I mean the people who might try and talk to yuo about it a few times and are polite about it rather than insulting and condescending.

RivaOni · Full English! Age: 41 Gender: Joined: 24 Sep 2002

It was usually the same people with me too, or at least the same church, but they keep a record of who they believe is interested in joining their church and who isn't.