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GD driven to tears

Age: 48 Gender:  Joined: 19 Jan 2005 |
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Xbox Live customer support.. |
Is pissing me off in a big way right now.
My Live account is due for renewal next month, so I bought one of those 12+1 month cards at the EB. I go to enter the code, and scratch off the back of the card. WTF, three of the letters are damaged in the process. So now I can barely make out one of them, while two of them are barely recognizable at all.
Alright, I can deal with this. I have a good idea what the letters are, so I try to enter what I think they are. It fails. I try multiple combinations, all fail. So I figure I'm screwed, but I thought I would try calling Xbox Live support anyway. They tell me they can't help me, to call the store. They give me a reference number.
I call the store, and they tell me once the package is opened they can't do anything. Great.
So I call MS back with my reference number, and I get a busy signal and then hung up on. Now I'm starting to fume. I call a third time, finally get through and speak to a different tech. This one seems to be more helpful, but in the end he says they can't do anything.
I tell him that is unacceptable. I paid $50 for this card, and I'm not willing to flush that down the toilet. So he puts me on hold while speaking to a supervisor. I sit on hold for a solid 15 minutes. He comes back, takes some account info, and puts me back on hold. I've been on hold for 20 minutes now, and I'm really starting to get ticked off.
The card has a 9-digit tracking number on the right side. You can't tell me that they can't figure it out with that number + the digits I have intact on the card.
So frustrating.. |
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Robb My freedom begins here

Age: 40 Gender:  Joined: 01 Nov 2004 |
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
Im sitting here reading the terms an conditions on my xbox live points pre-paid card (I assume it will be the same as the subscription cards) and whilst it says it is no-refundable, and will not be replaced if lost or stolen, it doesnt say anything about damage.
Keep at them untill u get some thing, plus something extra for your inconveniance I reckon |
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Shino Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time

Age: 49 Gender:  Joined: 15 Sep 2002 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:03 am Post subject: |
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GD driven to tears

Age: 48 Gender:  Joined: 19 Jan 2005 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
Well I ended up spending nearly an hour and a half with them on the last call, and they still refuse to do anything. This is a supervisor by the way. The rep even admitted to me that they are no longer making the scratch off cards, but in usual Microsoft fashion they won't do anything about it until enough people are affected to threaten a class-action lawsuit.
Look what it took for them to address the 360 hardware failure rate? I'm on my third 360. As much as I like the console, and as much as I love XBL, I am very close to selling everything, cancelling my account and never buying another piece of software from them again. |
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Shurikane Dim Panties As String

Joined: 24 Sep 2002 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
But... you are on your third 360! That thing has been here since only 2005. I'd have given up after the first.
My Dreamcast died only this January, and I had bought it in 2000. Lasted 7 years and over 2500 hours of play. And the thing that broke was the CD reader's spinning motor. I can understand why. |
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Shino Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time

Age: 49 Gender:  Joined: 15 Sep 2002 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: |
GD wrote: | Look what it took for them to address the 360 hardware failure rate? I'm on my third 360. As much as I like the console, and as much as I love XBL, I am very close to selling everything, cancelling my account and never buying another piece of software from them again. |
Honestly... I can't say I blame you. I know a guy on another board I frequent that is on ... his 11th or so. He's even gone through 2 elites already. It's like... what the hell is the point!
People talk about how their systems died after playing them too long. And several of them say... "well it's my fault... I played it for X hours straight."
That's Bullshit. The are making excuses for MS. Sorry but I know people that leave their PS3 on all the time running Folding@Home, and that takes more processing power than any of the games on the system.
And this is why I say... I love my 360, but fucking hate Microsoft! And that's why I buy everything for my 360 used when I can. I don't want them making money off me.
Shurikane wrote: | But... you are on your third 360! That thing has been here since only 2005. I'd have given up after the first.
My Dreamcast died only this January, and I had bought it in 2000. Lasted 7 years and over 2500 hours of play. And the thing that broke was the CD reader's spinning motor. I can understand why. |
You have heard about all the problems haven't you. And it's not even just one problem. The original PS2s had the DRE problem. After 5+ years, I never had the DRE problem, but I called Sony support and got the free repair anyway just to be sure. But that was it at least. And at least after you got your PS2 back... IT WAS FIXED. It didn't fucking break on you again 3 months later.
The 360s have had multiple problems. There's the board flexing that pops out the GPU. There's the Drive Failures. DREs. Audio/Video plug failures. And the scratching of disks. Which there is now a Class action suit for. I mean how many corners do you have to cut. You can't put a little foam pad in the Drive so that when the disk is rattled a little it doesn't hit the laser and scratch to hell.
I've had my 360 since Dec. And I get DREs once in a while.
Seriously man. The 360 is by far the worst piece of hardware quality wise, there has ever been. And that's not an opinion... that's a fact. And those that disagree... are in denial. |
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RivaOni Full English!

Age: 41 Gender:  Joined: 24 Sep 2002 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: |
My track record?
Atari 2600 (the sort of plasticy "lite" style model with the metalic strip, not the wooden one):
Played Centipede to the point where the console gave up, with a puff of smoke coming out of the back.
PlayStation (original flavour):
First one the spindle broke, it came off and wouldnt go back on.
Second one the connection on the back of the system for the aerial cable to go in stopped recieving a signal.
Dreamcast:
I'm on my fifth PAL machine, one had the Reset problem before there was a common fix for it, 4 of them the ports went, although I replaced the ports on my fifth one so its still going and my Japanese machine is dandy.
PS2 (chunky model)
technically I've had four of these.
System 1, it started stuttering on music, then while playing SSX On Tour I went pretty damn high and the level dissapeared from beneath me. Bought a second hand one to replace it (and took my faulty one in saying they'd sold me a faulty one) only to find that they had sold me an actual faulty unit, took that back, got it swapped, another faulty unit, got the final one tested, all was well and got a free controller out of it (and a free unboxed copy of Midnight Club 3 DUB Edition which was inside one of the PS2's)
My original XBox has an occasional disliking for anything published by EA, lasted for about a month at one point leading me to give up on Strangers Wrath. I've heard its the Samsung drives that do that, so the 360 may do the same at some point as mines got a Samsung drive. |
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Shino Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time

Age: 49 Gender:  Joined: 15 Sep 2002 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
Wow... glad I don't have your luck.
I had lightning strike my house a couple of years ago...
My dreamcast, gamecube and xbox all died on me b/c of it. AC Adaptors all died I think. Since the DC and XB were internal, not much I could do. Got a new AC Adapter for the GC, and that worked for a while now it won't read disks.
Funny thing is the other system on the same surge protector as all of them was the PS2, and it didn't die on me. It still worked fine. Even my system selector died on me. It was weird.
Not sure why the PS2 didn't fry. The only think I could think of is b/c the PS2 actually has a standby type mode so it was still drawing a bit of power while the other 3 were off. Have no idea if that could have anything to do with it, but it's the only real difference I could think of. |
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ClericalApathy Junior Otaku

Age: 43 Gender:  Joined: 14 Jul 2007 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
Never had a system break on me, never had to get one repaired. Then again I have a decent amount of electronics experience, and I can repair my own items if needed (Half the systems I own I bought used/broken for next to nothing. I paid 5 bucks for a broken xbox, only had to repair the IDE cable to the hard drive, another 5 bucks and 15 minutes. I had a fully functioning xbox.
Though even with my luck I am VERY wary of the 360, I handle it like it was my own fetus travelled through time. I keep the system near the AC vent with a fan pointed off the wall to circulate the cold air around the system. Even then I still get the occasional DRE. I had an A/V problem resulting a near red ring, was fixed easily.
Sucks is people do nothing but demand a more powerful system, and demanding it now, and are suprised when the companies actually listen. I would have been content with something that met halfway between the previous gen and this one, but was reliable (aka the Wii, while I may not like the line up of games, as far as consoles go, they built a pretty sturdy system). |
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Shino Fade into this fantasy, caught in the web of time

Age: 49 Gender:  Joined: 15 Sep 2002 |
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: |
ClericalApathy wrote: | Sucks is people do nothing but demand a more powerful system, and demanding it now, and are suprised when the companies actually listen. I would have been content with something that met halfway between the previous gen and this one, but was reliable (aka the Wii, while I may not like the line up of games, as far as consoles go, they built a pretty sturdy system). |
Whereas I don't deny that the Wii is built pretty well, the whole controller syncing thing is not well done at all. It's like they just threw it on. Mine have disconnected several times and it takes an act of God to get the connected again. Not to mention there is no way, with either the Xbox or the Wii, to reassign a controller to a different player number without shutting down and restarting it... at least not that I know of.
Honestly though, I think MS rushed us into this console gen b/c they wanted a head start. I don't think it had much to do with the consumer.
And they did exactly what you said... they took the cheap and fast route with the console and left of the "good." (Good referring to quality).
This is where I like what Nintendo and Sony did. They took an extra year and perfected their machines. And even with my issue with the controllers on the Wii, both systems are built pretty well. I was also really impressed with the flexibility of the PS3... you know... besides the fact that it can heat a room.  |
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