PO Card Game - Here be our workshop

[Reverend]

Alright, we've got a lot to discuss, specifically about the idea of our own rules vs. modifying another system. I vote for modifying another system, and based on my research so far, the DBZ CCG system looks to be a good start. I've seen Damion look at this some, and i agree that it's character driven combat system would work nice.

Too, the newest Starwars CCG is streamlined, and deals with different areas of combat. But we could decide to focus on character and ground combat.

The Magi-Nation system is nice, though I need to refresh myself on it, but thank Sperrit for that option.

I of course support Magic, but we don't need to go that route.

For reference, here is a card Sperrit made up that we could work with:

Name) Reverend
(Character Job/Description) PO Spiritual Advisor
Starting Energy: 16
Energize: 5
(Powers/Effects that that card can use) Power- Law&Chaos: Once per turn Rev can choose to do one of two things to a single creature in play. He can either increase the creature's defense by 5 or he can increase the creature's offense by 5.

This seems to fit well with the DBZ style rules, and that would allow us to make up training cards, and schools of combat, and other fun stuff.

Let teh discussion begin!

[Doot]

Honestly, I'll tell ya, you guys will have MUCH more knowledge than I when it comes to card games other than those you play with a poker deck.

I'm all for the ides. I figure new images will be in need for those cards, so Chibs and I will have our pencils ready!

[Senkir]

I don't know card games all that well, but that seems like it could be pretty cool.

I'm all for it as long as i can have my "Dagger of Lensflare" ^_~ j/k

(actually, I doubt anyone even remembers that thing )

Anyhow, I'll be watching from the shadows with my pet dragon. :O Oh, and on that note, you know you can use the dragon if you want, Dootness. You were the one who was with me when I got him, after all.

n_n

[Sperrit]

I'm not familiar with the DBZ CCG rules. I'll try and find them. But I figure that as long as it's character driven it would work for this kind of game, because I think that that's what will be most true to PO: Keeping the characters as the main focus.

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[Reverend]

I'm going to be refreshing myself over the Christmas break, but the more I keep looking at it, DBZ seems like a good starting point for rules and design.

[Minosheep]

Someone, anyone:

HOW DO YOU PLAY M:TG OR THE DBZ CCG OR THE STAR WARS CCG?!

I have NO knowledge of... well... anything.

I know how to play... err... Go Fish. I'm talented.

:baaaa:

[Sperrit]

GO FISH POWA! Sorry. I'll get back on topic now.

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[Reverend]

The problem with attempting to explain CCG's without having one of them present at the explanation is that when certain things on the card are referenced, you can't see them.

It's annoying I know....

[Therin]

that reminds me...Do any of you who play magic have Apprentice? It's basically MTGOnline for free, with the entire library of cards to boot. When I say the entire library, I mean the ENTIRE library. It has every set from Alpha to Onslaught once you've downloaded the expansion patch, including unglued. The only real problem is that it doesn't do anything for you. You have to tap the mana, you have to move the cards from your hand to the board, etc. It's all played on an honor system because there are infinite ways to cheat. But for all that, you still get the entire library of cards. If you don't have it, go here and download it Appr146. MAKE SURE YOU READ THE FILE DESCRIPTIONS. Then go back there and download Approracle.zip.

Ok, I'm done preaching.



Back on topic, I really think the game should be character-based. Like what I said in the store thread.

Quote:

Instead, maybe certain moves should only be available to certain characters

Like the character's super special moves should only be available to that character. And the other thing I like is that the basic attack cards should to different things depending on the abilities of the character who's using them. Again, like I said in the store thread.

There would be a lot more variables, but in the end, I think the game would be the better for it because it will be different. Does anyone agree with me?

[Therin]

This was part of a conversation I just had with rev.:


r3v3r3nd42 (12:07:41 PM): so like a basic elemental attack card might do great damage for Shino and Sperrit
TherinTelemon II (12:07:48 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:07:52 PM): especially earth
r3v3r3nd42 (12:07:56 PM): but barely anything for like BWS-a or you
TherinTelemon II (12:08:01 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:08:33 PM): and like, some are magic and drain the character's MP, kind of like Magi-Nation
r3v3r3nd42 (12:08:47 PM): yup
r3v3r3nd42 (12:08:52 PM): that works rather well too
TherinTelemon II (12:09:12 PM): except it doesn't take away from the character's life points
r3v3r3nd42 (12:09:24 PM): right
r3v3r3nd42 (12:09:34 PM): though you could have cards that do that kind of thing
r3v3r3nd42 (12:09:40 PM): drain life instead of magic
TherinTelemon II (12:09:54 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:10:00 PM): but the basic spells wouldn't
r3v3r3nd42 (12:10:09 PM): right
TherinTelemon II (12:10:10 PM): maybe some of the special abilities would, though
r3v3r3nd42 (12:10:16 PM): that's an adavanced spell for sure
r3v3r3nd42 (12:10:34 PM): Built in Channel, I like it
TherinTelemon II (12:10:56 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:13:45 PM): and when a character runs out of MP, some of their other stats will go down
TherinTelemon II (12:13:49 PM): from fatigue
r3v3r3nd42 (12:14:14 PM): good idea
r3v3r3nd42 (12:15:13 PM): what do you think of the idea of making multiple versions of characters
TherinTelemon II (12:15:18 PM): that works
r3v3r3nd42 (12:15:23 PM): great
TherinTelemon II (12:15:30 PM): because I have multiple versions of my characters
r3v3r3nd42 (12:15:36 PM): as do I
TherinTelemon II (12:15:39 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:15:44 PM): and Azurel
TherinTelemon II (12:15:49 PM): ans Sakura
TherinTelemon II (12:15:52 PM): and Cobbi
r3v3r3nd42 (12:15:54 PM): and Cobi
TherinTelemon II (12:15:58 PM): heh
r3v3r3nd42 (12:16:03 PM): Plus
r3v3r3nd42 (12:16:07 PM): we could do NOC's
r3v3r3nd42 (12:16:11 PM): liek the Rune mage
TherinTelemon II (12:16:15 PM): yeah
r3v3r3nd42 (12:16:23 PM): then do Rune versions of characters
TherinTelemon II (12:16:36 PM): meh
r3v3r3nd42 (12:16:41 PM): Like Doot and Musashi
r3v3r3nd42 (12:16:50 PM): Expansion idea
TherinTelemon II (12:16:56 PM): or maybe just something like binding grasp
r3v3r3nd42 (12:17:03 PM): Good call
TherinTelemon II (12:17:08 PM): yeah
r3v3r3nd42 (12:17:10 PM): Though if we like the game
TherinTelemon II (12:17:18 PM): that actually fits better the more I think about it
r3v3r3nd42 (12:17:26 PM): we can do expansions based on scenario battle threads
TherinTelemon II (12:17:30 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:17:35 PM): like Angelic favor
TherinTelemon II (12:17:41 PM): for Damion
r3v3r3nd42 (12:17:45 PM): yup
r3v3r3nd42 (12:17:49 PM): and Chaos Beasts
r3v3r3nd42 (12:17:56 PM): or CROUS
TherinTelemon II (12:18:03 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:18:14 PM): actually, I just thought of something
r3v3r3nd42 (12:18:21 PM): what be that?
TherinTelemon II (12:18:38 PM): The angelic favor could be like a random effect like two turns after a character dies
TherinTelemon II (12:18:48 PM): you roll a six-sided die
TherinTelemon II (12:18:59 PM): and if you get a one, they come back as the angelic version
TherinTelemon II (12:19:24 PM): but that only would work if you could have the angelic version on the side
r3v3r3nd42 (12:19:29 PM): and back to life regularly on like a 2?
r3v3r3nd42 (12:19:36 PM): I like idea though
TherinTelemon II (12:19:38 PM): yeah
TherinTelemon II (12:20:16 PM): so if we end up selling booster packs, every character has to come with their respective angelic form
r3v3r3nd42 (12:20:24 PM): right
TherinTelemon II (12:20:31 PM): or maybe angelics could be a seperate booster pack
r3v3r3nd42 (12:20:41 PM): that would work well too



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(people being Sperrit)


(and possibly Bryan)


(...and everyone else WHO WANTS TO HELP)