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Shurikane
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 Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:16 pm Post subject: |
Hey guys, we're not homophobic, huh? No one is homophobic! Everyone claims he's not homophobic!
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reaper
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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For the last time, no He does not love everyone. Go read Romans. I've already pointed out several times that God said He hated Esau. He is a god of wrath as well, you know. Gogo Protestant power.
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God was considered a god of wrath in the old testiment the new testiment is all about his compassion
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The funk bomb? And what if we do allow it? Groups will start to protest on everything else involving marriage, just as Ain pointed out with his vegetable arguement. Incest and polygamy will have to be allowed as well. I for one don't think that either of those will help the country much..
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ummm that doesnt make sense, poligamy will never be allowed, and incest deffinetly will not be alowed. Homosexual marriage is not in anyway related to those
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For one, I'm not homophobic and it's starting to piss me off being generalized as that because I'm against this. I'm not against blacks but I hate a lot of rap music. And no, I don't feel uncomfortable around them. I've talked to a few over the past year or so, and it's not much different than talking to anyone else. It's not like they say 'that's fab' every few seconds or everything (Gogo Queer Eye for promoting stereotypes).
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Umm i dont think you are being generalized, i think that idea has come from the shit you have been saying 
and not listening to rap music is not the same as being agains gay marraige. You dont try and stop them from makeing it do you? no i didnt think so. So based on your argument gay marriage should be allowed, because after all just because its there doesnt mean you have to take part in it
To me this whole thing has just become sad, it has really made me see how much bigotry and ignorance is in this world, But it has also given me a chance to see that there are quite a few people who i would consider to be good intellegent people.
Every one that is against this answer me this though, would gay marriage infringe in any way on your rights? If the answer is no, shut up and leave the debate alone because in this great country you are supposed to be allowed to do anything you want as long as it does not infring in anothers rights. |
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Ultrawolf
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 10:59 pm Post subject: |
| reaper wrote: | | Every one that is against this answer me this though, would gay marriage infringe in any way on your rights? If the answer is no, shut up and leave the debate alone because in this great country you are supposed to be allowed to do anything you want as long as it does not infring in anothers rights. |
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Shino
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:18 pm Post subject: |
| Shurikane wrote: | Hey guys, we're not homophobic, huh? No one is homophobic! Everyone claims he's not homophobic!
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Well I have proof that I'm not homophobic...
I had 2 roommates that are gay in the past. Actually one of them was Deevah.
Rev: you are quite wise.
Reap: you make very valid points. |
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Shurikane
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:38 pm Post subject: |
I was being sarcastic. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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KenseiKurisuchan
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 11:53 pm Post subject: |
| Quote: | | God was considered a god of wrath in the old testiment the new testiment is all about his compassion |
...No. I just went and read Romans again to make sure I knew what I was talking about, and there are entire sections on God's wrath. And trust me, there's plenty more in the New Testament about God being wrathful. He is never changing.
| Quote: | | ummm that doesnt make sense, poligamy will never be allowed, and incest deffinetly will not be alowed. Homosexual marriage is not in anyway related to those |
Wait...so being black and being homosexual are related, yet two forms of marriage are not? I'm confused here..must have missed something.
That was saying that if homosexual marriage is allowed, they have no right to prevent any type of marriage, especially with the arguements being presented here.
| Quote: | Umm i dont think you are being generalized, i think that idea has come from the shit you have been saying
and not listening to rap music is not the same as being agains gay marraige. You dont try and stop them from makeing it do you? no i didnt think so. So based on your argument gay marriage should be allowed, because after all just because its there doesnt mean you have to take part in it |
The "shit" I have been saying? Look at all of my posts. Show me one single post that gives hint to me being homophobic. If you'll notice, I point out again and again that I am just as bad for anything I've done as someone is for being homosexual so as to avoid that. Then again, if your comprehension is at par with your composition, I can easily understand how you could see that.
Who's to say that I don't try to stop rap? Of course it is not within my power to go to the companies and say "K, stop producing tnx". Just as it is not within my power to go to liberal groups and say "k, no more support for homosexuality tnx." I fight little battles against rap just as I am fighting a little battle here.
Of course it being there doesn't mean I have to take part in it. But what kind of world would this be if that was the attitude? Only the people in the Twin Towers would have the right to retaliate, but wait, most were dead. Murderes could go free, because of course the muder happened to the dead people.
| Quote: | To me this whole thing has just become sad, it has really made me see how much bigotry and ignorance is in this world, But it has also given me a chance to see that there are quite a few people who i would consider to be good intellegent people.
Every one that is against this answer me this though, would gay marriage infringe in any way on your rights? If the answer is no, shut up and leave the debate alone because in this great country you are supposed to be allowed to do anything you want as long as it does not infring in anothers rights. |
Bigotry and ignorance? Let's take a step back here. Look how many posts have attacked me, the views I have, and the Christian church. Now look how many posts have attacked gays. See a difference here? Go look in the mirror and tell me who's a bigot.
Gay marriage would infringe on my rights, that is to say, the rights argued in here. I've already pointed out my thoughts on our rights as humans. But if one of our rights is to pursue happiness, and this doesn't make me happy, then obviously it does.
I'm off to bed. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Gay marriage would infringe on my rights, that is to say, the rights argued in here.But if one of our rights is to pursue happiness, and this doesn't make me happy, then obviously it does.
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omg I don't want to get involved or anything but that's really selfish. So what you're saying is that alot of other people shouldn't have the right to be happy just because it upsets you? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:07 am Post subject: |
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omg I don't want to get involved or anything but that's really selfish. So what you're saying is that alot of other people shouldn't have the right to be happy just because it upsets you? |
...again, look at this. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that that is relevant based on arguements in here. A while back it was argued that everyone has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. As I said, that doesn't matter to me because I believe we have no rights. Every time I use religion as an arguement, it's scratched and deemed not fitting in this subject, so I might as well go by what else I've seen in here. And I didn't say I would deny it, I said it would deny my "rights."
And let me ask this: As Reaper asked how would it affect me if they can get married, how would it affect any of you (who are not gay) if they can't? |
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reaper
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Wait...so being black and being homosexual are related, yet two forms of marriage are not? I'm confused here..must have missed something.
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obviously, I was makeing a comparasin between 2 humans who do not have a choice in how they are, so it is unethical to persecute them.
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Bigotry and ignorance? Let's take a step back here. Look how many posts have attacked me, the views I have, and the Christian church. Now look how many posts have attacked gays. See a difference here? Go look in the mirror and tell me who's a bigot.
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That was not an attack on you, a bigot is an intolerant person, and as for intelligence I was using it in the sense of showing sound judgment and rationality. which in my opinion you have not been doing. But that is not hear nor there
and as for me being a bigot, well yes I am a bigot of bigots.
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And let me ask this: As Reaper asked how would it affect me if they can get married, how would it affect any of you (who are not gay) if they can't?
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It would affect me by seeing a human being oppressed, it would effect me by seeing people I know and care about denied the beautiful thing that is marriage, and it would effect me by seeing what a sad world we live in |
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