Drugs and ODing

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[Akanari]

Please direct all replies related to Suicide (or ODing) to the new topic in the Soapbox Forum.

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Guys please dont turn this into a hate fest/Drug-Suicide arguement.

I love you all, dearly, more than I ever convey, and not nearly often enough. Being so far away from everyone makes it that much harder.
As we all get older, I am TERRIFIED that I'm going to hear some terrible news all the time about either family or friends...I dont know why,maybe its just ebcause I dont get to be around everyone anymore.

Whats happened in the past, all we can do is learn from it and move on. We all have our opinions on things, and thats how it is. We can agree to disagree on this I think.

I've had more than a few close calls with friends who were suicidal...and I thank god that they are still hear today, and past that episode of thier lives. I've been completely exhausted and drained at times, just trying to lend them my strength, and take one day at a time, until things started to look up. Thankfully for me, they listened...maybe not just to me, but they didnt act on anything, and for that I am grateful. I only know of one who gives me credit for saving him, and he has gone on to finish college and has a decent job for the moment, as he graduated last year. Made me so happy. We still talk, he still gets sad about his brother who had died, which lead to his suicidal tendancies, but aside from that, he's ok.

All I can say is if you know someone is suicidal, even mildly, just be there for them...sometime's that's all that it takes. Sometimes knowing they arent alone, and that someone out there does indeed care, can make the biggest difference in the world.

[shadokastur]

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Sometimes people need others to lean on. Being here in FL, while I love many aspects of it, being so far from family, and money issues and other things from my past fucking with my head, I was someone who had contemplated suicide. I dont like to admit it, but I have thought about it many times. Thank god I have the friends and family that I do, because just hte THOUGHT of hurting any of them, kept me from doing something stupid. But we all experience weakness, and if you havent yet, you will. I'm still dealing with depression a lot, but thankfully hte suicidal part has passed because I have indeed worked to climb out of hte hole, though sometimes it feels like i am barely making any progress, i can see that I have..and that keeps them at bay.

Ive known you for a long tiem now, and while you are very stubborn in your ways at times, I wouldnt want you to be any other way, but I would hope that if someone comes to you in a time of weakness, you wouldnt just push them away or tell them to do something about it for themselves. I would be crushed if I got up the nerve to come to any of you when I was at my lowest, to be pushed away and told to figure it out on my own. Ive been through a lot in my life, and sometimes peace can seem so enchanting...but I'm still curious for what hte future holds for me...i only hope I'm not wasting my time, and that my reason for being here is real, and that I make some sort of difference in my life and for those around me, even if its a small one.

sorry if I'm extra emotional today too, i have my reasons.

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Wait, Why am I the author of this thread?

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I demand Justice!

[Jaena]

[Shandriz]

I have to say that I see both sides, really.

I think that people who have help available to them, and refuse to take it-- choosing instead to continue suffering and then end the suffering in their own way-- are selfish. (of course, I also think that everyone is selfish in some way, but that's another discussion altogether).

I also think that people cannot help being depressed, and that while not a disease, it -is- a disorder. Depression is usually caused by chemical imbalances in the brain. Therefore, no, not something they can control. Whether they choose to accept help or not, however, is within their control, and not accepting help is indeed selfish.

After all, the term 'selfish' refers to doing things for yourself only and not for others-- if you refuse to get help (when help is available), that's obviously doing something for yourself and not for everyone else around you. It may be hard to make that decision, and some people may not be capable of making the right one, but they should be held responsible for their own actions, no matter what caused them to take said actions. I have -tremendous- respect for those of you who managed to pull yourselves out of that pit. I'm glad you did, as is everyone else around you. I think everyone here shares that sentiment, at least.

[Doot]